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I got an offer to hunt a private ranch in SW CO where they have taken several 200" bucks in the past, so I burned my points and put in for the 4th season hoping for some rut action and a chance at a big buck. Well this year turned out to be the warmest that anyone can remember and the big bucks had not moved into the lower ground where the ranch was located by the time the season started. I saw lots of deer and passed many small bucks and finally on the last evening of the hunt I was able to take this buck. We glassed him up by himself and got to 400 yards, 1 shot with my 7mag using 140 Barnes TTSX at 3250 fps.

I just hunted in a unit with lots of tags and while I was on my hunt and saw lots of deer, easily 70-80 per day including several small bucks each day. I was hunting for meat but I refuse to shoot a baby. I did finally find a buck that was another year older and tagged him on day three, he was a 18" 3x3 with eye guards. I saw several other hunters with deer and all of them had shot a yearling that was either a spike or a very small fork. I do not condemn in any way these hunters who elected to shoot a buck that is legal under the current rules as I am sure there are many here who would not have killed the buck I harvested. Each person make their own choice on the animal they want to take. For what it's worth, in the unit where I was hunting the herd appears very healthy as almost every doe had a fawn with her including many with twins and my deer was fat as could be. Do you think we would benefit from a 3 point minimum like they have in other states? I am all for opportunity but it would be nice to see a slightly older age class bucks in the general population. It seems to me that it would only be one year with a reduced harvest then the take would return to normal but with nicer bucks for everyone. I know there are big bucks out there and it takes effort to find them but as is the majority of the harvest in regular hunts consists of under age bucks. What does this group think?

I have several: Zeiss 10x40BA in leather case, Leica 10x42 BA just serviced by Lieca, Lieca 10x32 with leather case and box with papers pm me if interested.

Looks like nice truck, with those mods it seems like a bargain for $8000

I looked up the elk load for my rifle; it is a max load developed in my rifle so be cautious. It is slightly compressed and requires the extra case capacity gained by seating the bullet out. My load is 160 Nosler partition, 48.5 gr of R19, Winchester case, CCI large rifle primer, bullet seated for a 3.122 oal. This load goes right at 2700fps in my rifle. It shot right through the elk in the pic, shot behind the shoulder at about 130 yards, took two steps and collapsed. Here is a pic of a loaded round. When my wife had that hunt I developed a practice load with components that I had on hand but it worked well and had very low recoil. The load was 120 gr Speer spitzer with 40gr of 4895, bullet seated to the ogive. The velocity was close to the 160 gr load at 2700. My wife shot the gun with that load all summer before her hunt, the lack of recoil made it fun and she gained a ton of confidence.

Here are some pics of my rifle in 7x57 including a pic from when my wife used it to kill a nice bull in 3c a few years ago.

My oldest memories of any kind are of hunting with mt dad, I started tagging along at 3 or 4, I started wingshooting as soon as I could hold up the gun at around 5 or 6. I took hunter safety when I was in the Cub Scouts at 9 and I was a good shot by then. In CA where I grew up you had to be 12 to hunt big game and it just killed me that I could not hunt deer with the others when I was 10-11. I shot my first buck at 12 and have taken at least one big game animal and lots of birds every year since. I am 54 now.

Most 7x57's have a long throat originally for the 175 gr round nose that was standard in the early years of this cartridge. Assuming your gun does, my favorite load is a 140 Nosler partition with 47 gr of Win 760, CCI standard primer and Winchester case, seat the bullet out near the lands. In my rifle ( a custom Mauser that is Mannlicher stocked with a 21" barrel) I get just over 2800 fps. This load is super accurate in my rifle and this combination has taken whitetail, mule & blacktail deer, antelope and elk. The best thing about the 7x57 is that it is very soft shooting for the performance and both my wife and sister have used this rifle and load with success. I also have a "elk load" that uses a 160 Nosler partition with R19 but I have to look it up if you are interested.

I am open to offers

I have two pairs of Leica Trinovids for sale. One is 10 x 32 BA, these are almost unused and includes box, papers, leather case, strap, ocular lens cover $750 The other is 10 x 42 BA has aftermarket case and harness. These have been used but we'll cared for, lenses are spotless. $750 Text or call 4806887535

Price adjustment to $100

Browning Summit II left hand bow, 45-70#, 29-32 draw, 65% let off. Complete with sight, arrow rest, quiver, 15 arrows with field points, soft case This is in unused condition, $150 Call or text 4806887535

It depends on how much weight you carry most of the time and the air pressure that you usually run in the tires. The D tires are marginal when your truck is at max load but will be better when the truck is unloaded and the air pressure is 50 # or less. If you are using the truck a lot on dirt roads the lower air pressure will give a better ride and more traction. The E tires will make more heat if they are run at lower pressures than the D tires and heat is the enemy for tire life. The opposite is true if the D tires are run at near max weight at 50#, they will build more heat in the tire. Everything is a compromise.

I am selling my complete outfit, I had shoulder surgery so I won't be drawing a bow anytime soon. PSE Bow madness bow with whisker biscuit, sight, stabilizer, limb silencers 14 carbon arrows; 8 with field tips and 6 with broadheads Field sling Release Plano hard case Target block Just in time for hunting season, this is everything needed to go. $350 for everything. I'm located in Mesa 480-688-7535

SOLD

It is adjustable 50-60# draw weight and 25-30" draw length

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You are correct, I should not have chimed in. It was troll like and I apologize. I have difficulty staying quiet on that particular subject. Actually, the ideal is mine, I realize that it is a grade higher than the field grade. I was just trying to demonstrate the matting on the rib and the sharpness of the roll marks. I will stay quiet, good luck finding some 15's

I specialize in selling collectible double barreled shotguns for a living and have done so since 1978. I have owned and sold more than a hundred pre war L C Smith shotguns of all grades and gauges. I am not trying to tear your gun apart but I think it is important that the gun is described accurately. Most people don't know all the details about these old guns but collectors and enthusiasts do. The wood is not refinished, it has been replaced. The stock work is of lesser quality than the original and the trigger guard was bent to a funny shape in the process. If the action is not satin chromed then it has been chemically coated. Either way the action should be color case hardened as seen in the pics I posted earlier. Based on your pics I would say with confidence that the barrels have been re-blued. The matting on the top rib has been polished off and the markings appear soft. (See the pic I have attached for comparison) Even if the barrel blue were original, every other part of the gun has been altered. This gun is what we call a "shooter", meaning it is a nice sound gun but one where the value won't suffer from using it in the field.

From your pics I can tell you with certainty that your gun is 100% refinished and has had lots of work done to it;The action has been polished and hard chromed, the stock is aftermarket and has a shape that is nothing like the original and was left un-checkered a recent non-period recoil pad has been installed, the barrels have been Re-blued as evidenced by the soft markings and color seen in the pics I have attached pictures of the same make and model as your gun in very nice, completely original unaltered condition. The gun pictured is currently being offered for sale for $1095.

Close all the roads? What about persons with disabilities that are unable to walk at all? Many of you are taking a a very short sighted view as any of you can be one car accident or fall from not being able to walk into your favorite hunting spot. In most of these areas the roads were built for cattle, timber or mining not by wildcat off-roaders. The goal of the TMR is to create de-facto wilderness areas out of vast areas of public land. They cut the access,then the use goes way down until there is no public outcry to maintain access, then they close it completely.

Maybe this gun will work: http://williamlarkinmoore.com/inventory/itemid/4966 Many other 20ga O/U's in stock as well, the largest inventory of quality guns in AZ. here is a link: http://williamlarkinmoore.com/new-arrivals

I am interested in buying the mag 20 and I have a few questions. Please give me a call at 480 688 7535 Dave Moore