Ohthatguy

While this story is 13 years old, it just goes to show ya, the more things change... Guides helping hunters, hunters shooting elk in areas where you shouldn't be hunting and even Shawn Wagner thrown in for good measure. PINETOP - During a meeting of the Arizona Game and Fish Commission, Michigan businessman Michael Malik was reprimanded for shooting a trophy-quality bull elk too close to homes without homeowner permission. Malik appeared before the commission at its December meeting in Casa Grande. After hearing his statement, the commission voted to civilly assess Malik $14,995 for the state's loss of the 408-point, velvet-antlered elk.The commission also revoked his hunting, fishing and trapping privileges in Arizona for five years. Malik must successfully complete a hunter education course prior to having his license privileges restored.The commission's action to revoke Malik's license for five years has far-reaching implications. Arizona is a member of the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact with 27 other states, including all western states and Malik's home state of Michigan. Until his license privileges are restored in Arizona, he will not be able to legally hunt in any of those 27 states. In the early hours of July 26, 2007, Malik, assisted by four companions including well-known Arizona elk guide John McClendon, shot, wounded and eventually killed the bull in a privately-owned meadow in the Morgan Flat area east of Pinetop. While on patrol, Game and Fish Wildlife Manager Shawn Wagner heard the initial shot and responded to investigate. He found the Malik hunting party and wounded bull in close proximity to several occupied houses where the property owners were quite displeased with Malik hunting and shooting near their homes. Wagner determined the homeowners had not been approached nor had they granted permission for Malik to hunt on their property. Wagner seized the bull and cited Malik for shooting violations. Shooting a firearm within a quarter-mile of an occupied building while taking wildlife without permission from the owner is a Class 2 misdemeanor. Malik paid $135,000 at an auction for Arizona's 2006-2007 "special" elk tag at a Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation annual convention. Special tag holders have the added privilege of pursuing their designated big game for one full year. After several pre-trial conferences and continuances, Malik was found guilty in the Pinetop Justice Court on Aug. 29 of discharging a firearm within the quarter-mile limit of occupied residences while taking elk. He was sentenced to eight hours of community service. The criminal conviction authorized the commission to take civil action against Malik. "This incident is more a private property and public safety violation than it is a wildlife crime," said Jim Hinkel, law enforcement program manager at Game and Fish's Pinetop office. "The court and commission decisions are a strong reminder to all hunters about the importance of hunter awareness and safety and respecting the rights of private property owners and rural residents." The department donated the edible portions of the elk carcass to Shepherd's Kitchen, a charitable organization in Snowflake. The antlers and cape remain in custody of the department pending the outcome of an appeal to the Pinetop Justice Court decision by Malik and his attorney.

No trophy class anything for several years at least..

Just a thought; have you confirmed that you can comfortably spend hours behind the 30X canons you are creating? If not, maybe wait till then to make a decision on additional glass.

If you plan on watching or listening to the meeting, the AZGF website shows it as June 12th when it actually begins on Thursday, June 11th as indicated in the agenda.

Just a heads up if you plan on watching or listening to the Commission meeting, the GnF website shows it as June 12th but it actually begins on Thursday, June 11th. (As shown in the agenda) Cross posted in the Popcorn Thread

It seems you can petition for just about anything... 14. Petition by Mr. Bernard “Charles” Ryan to be allowed use PointGuard after the fact. 15. Petition by Mr. Manuel Sias to be allowed to provide payment and for the tag in which payment was declined during the draw process. 16. Petition by Mr. Travis Skogstad to be allowed to purchase PointGuard after the fact. Mr. Skogstad is requesting he be allowed to purchase PointGuard after the fact because he was drawn for a tag he didn’t intend to apply for. 17. Petition by Mr. Daniel Stadeli to be allowed to purchase a Bonus Point after deadline day. Presenter: requests to be allowed to purchase a Bonus Point after deadline day. 18. Petition by Mr. Darwin Steele to be allowed to purchase PointGuard after the fact. Mr. Steele is requesting he be allowed to purchase PointGuard after the fact due to COVID-19 pandemic causing a financial burden.

Trying to get this thread put under lock and key? Lol

Picking up where the Woodbury fire left off.. I just might have to break out the dreaded circles!

Wow...

Mmmmmm, sure there is...

Just saw some Phoenix fun on Ch 3..

During the last ones here, I was in ADOT's traffic operations center and it was pretty cool how they were following the idiots around with the street cameras and had the cops heading them off as they were trying to shut down I-10 in the tunnel. The cameras on the highways and around town are quite impressive.

Lol. That's the part you think sucks in all of this?? Oh yeah, never mind....

2020 regs say you can still use an ATV

n2horns, you have fallen into the abyss of the web... Seek help..

Latest #'s.. Skewed, twisted or otherwise...

Funny you say that because when I was there about 12 years ago, I was working on some filters in the foundry where they were making the irons. Guess they stopped making them there.. Maybe they will move production back here with all this Covid crap..

Ping has a factory here in Phoenix.

Because the rules only apply and fires are only started in the obvious spots..

Not on the downside yet...

Should probably move this to the classifieds..

If you get something in velvet, again...... Clay at Mogollon as he can handle that in house.

This should be good for a few comments.

Curious why you say its not much use for glassing? Simply the height? It's the same one I pack up mtns.

Report pleeeeaaase!!