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    Did these guys know what was coming ahead of time? Did they have time to write notes to their wifes and kids etc.? Cant imagine what that would be like.. Id just want my family to know how much I loved them. The scariest thing about death for me is the wound it would cause my family, especially the kids.. That's rough right there.

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    I have never heard that leaving the bones in helps cooling off, that makes no sense. You shouldn't just throw all the meat in one big ball in a big bag, it has to breath and get air to all parts, but bones hold heat from my experience.

     

     

    When hunting solo, this has always concerned me. One can only get an elk on ice so fast by yourself. The key is to get it hanging in a tree in the shade with no hide.

     

    Randy Newberg took two couple full days to get his Colorado bull out last year, and he had no issues that I'm aware of. Early November he had it quartered and hung in a tree in the shade. He always tells people not to debone immediately, saying that the bone helps cool the interior meat.

     

     

    I think it makes the bone act like a heat sink. Kind of like when you lay a frozen steak in a skillet, it sucks the cold out of the meat. Same concept just in reverse.

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    I too have spent a lof of time in butcher shops. They sour first in the dense muscle areas. Sour meat is basically a bacteria so one small spot spreads fast. Between the shoulders, "armpits" and hind quarters go first. If i keep the bone in, i split the hams to the bone to release heat. If the animal is hung whole, i split between the shoulders to the bone, split the armpits till the front quarters are barely attached, then split the hinds. I usually use little sticks to pry open the cuts to let that cool air penetrate. Amazing how some people "take care" of meat. Seen quarters stuffed in black trash bags in august

     

    Even if I quarter and hang quickly I will always split the hams now. I didn't know that meat spoils from the middle out so this was a new concept to me when I first heard it. That alone could save a lot of meat in warmer weather.

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    Bob. I posted in the campfire. Seems like the place the post should have been. Im under the impression its called the campfire because its the place to bring something up that may also come up at, near or around a campfire. Seems like it really struck a nerve with you and Im not sure why??

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    Well it's been pretty eye opening so far. After 16 years together and five kids we have had a lot of ups and downs. We have both done and said things that have hurt and cut each other to the core and once they are done you can never have a retake on those moments. My wife not only supports my hunting and fishing she WANTS me to. She also does both herself and I'd choose her hands down as my hunting buddy over my friends any day of the week. She's a keeper and were just trying to make this thing go full term. In my opinion anyone who is married or has a significant other could actually use something like this. It has been great so far.

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    Anyone going to be there? Wife and I will be. Hopefully it will be good. God knows we can use it.

     

    For anyone interested...

     

    Family Life Ministries is having their "Weekend to Remember" marriage retreat this weekend. Its at the Scottsdale Camelback Resort (Marriott). You can register at the door according to the email I got. Starts at 5 for check in and classes start at 7 I think.

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    Yes I said snarky it was a more appropriate choice than what I initially wanted to say but I am trying to be polite. Yes I will acknowledge that I have not posted much as I am a fairly new member to this forum but not new to the site. I had been looking at the site for a long time and decided to stop being a lurker and join.

    As far as the OTC elk that is already in the works as well. Not much choice since no one in my group was drawn this year.

    The feral pigs were just something to add to it so that the elk are not the only egg in the basket.

    We have also put in for deer and turkey on this draw.

    Like I said I am researching options the pigs looked like a good option as they are invasive, destructive and unregulated.

    I am also waiting to hear back from a family member in Farmington New Mexico about a possible hog hunt in his area. If he is able to give me good info then I will let everyone know what areas are recommended and any contact info I am able to get to help others that might be interested in going to New Mexico for hogs.

    Have you heard back from your family in NM? If you get it nailed down I've been interested in hunting pigs there for a long time. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they are working their way into the chiricauas right now.

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    Sabino Canyon is a great place to hunt. After you kill, you can ask all the hikers to help you carry out your animal and gear. Good luck. B)

    All over that one already...strapping that bad boy on the hood of the tram for a ride down the canyon! :D

    Lol, I'm gonna start strapping all of our animals to the hood. Sure I drive a truck and all, but how am I gonna piss off the tree huggers if they can't see what I killed?

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    Man I thought those points would have given me better odds then that. I ended up putting them both in on separate apps. My boy has a cow tag which I think we will likely fill pretty quick. Hopefully one of them will get drawn for deer and we can take out time and find something decent.

     

    Thanks

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    Depends what you mean by "better job". Had a roofing company and a remodeling company. The roofing company was great and good for a steady grand per week with partners. I ran the company and my partner and his sons were the crew. Totally stress free. At the remodeling company I had to count on employees to do the work and I was "living the dream". The only problem was the dream was a nightmare. Man, I could tell you some tales... In any case the remodeling company made me hate business ownership so badly that I wanted to walk away from it completely. So I told my partner I'm out and I now work for a pest control company. In another year I can start my own company but be a one man show and only use my kids as employees (when and if needed).

     

    So now I'm just putting in my time. We decided were wanting to move up north next year and the pest control world kind of allows you to have time off for things like hunting so it's the perfect job for someone who loves the outdoor life.

    I don't regret leaving my other companies behind at all. I've learned a lot and know how to do lots of things pretty darn good. Sometimes you just have to take the leap of faith, it's scary but you'll never know unless you try. Just make sure you have a plan.

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    Oldest son and daughter both have 3 points for deer. Son got a youth elk tag for 23 and doesn't necessarily want to hunt deer and elk at the same time. Daughter does want to hunt deer (in 23). Draw odds were 29% last year. With three points would this be a sure draw for them this year?

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