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I hadnt looked at co regs in a long time. they changed alot since the mid 90's(there regs are a ton easier to understand now as well glad they cleaned that part up. back when we did it we got deer and elk and fishing/small game for right around 300 bucks for OTC in 3 different seasons 1st 2nd or 3rd now its 661 for just non res elk and fishing for non res youth is 100. but they do have either sex in archery in most of the state, from what I read. no more deer OTC unless its whitetails in certain units most are private property like there OTC lope tags they offer. if your into archery though it might not be a bad deal as the either sex option has a ton of areas and the way I read it(someone will have to confirm) you could hunt ALL those units with the OTC either sex tag. Rifle bull OTC seems to have the same units as back when, higher price and also I think you can hunt all the units that are open with the same tag. I thought before your otc tag was for specific areas and units only maybe I was mistaken. A land owner tag from NM maybe be cheaper but I doubt it. you may want to try land owner tags in WY and possible Montana. Idaho looks like a better option if you dont want a land owner tag. Its not a bad deal of a kid 17 years old. 100 bucks.

I got a account when they 1st came it, it never showed anything for a few years, the year before last I called and asked whats up with that. the lady was trying to figure it out as well. on one page you had to add your sportsman id or your ss number . mine was backwards once I add'd my ss number for the sportsman id number (or the other way around as I put in the wrong number) it worked perfectly. some of my buddies on another forum had done the same thing when they swapped them it also worked for them. of coarse it was because I didnt read the fine print at the time that explained it.

man you guys get wigged out to easy. who cares if its march 15 or march 1. Me personally I wish they would go back and make everyone pay up front for everything in full then issue a refund if you didnt get drawn, would knock out on alot or people and make tags easier to draw. but then I would miss reading the boards watching adults cry about how they were dissed and the draw system is not fair. not to mention the statistic clowns getting all mathematical then having a stroke cause they didnt get drawn while some poor shmuck gets a tag with 0-3 points. ah the good old days

do they still offer combination tags for muelys and elk? all 4 times we went they did. deer had to be 4 point or better and elk if I recall had to be branched

Figured this had to be the scenario from the beginning of your story. CO OTC seasons are nuts with people nowadays. Tough to get away from the crowds. Kinda like the circus that 6a/6b can be. I've hunted Routt and San Juan, would do San Juan again if I were to choose between the two. I have heard good things about Grand Mesa and Gunnison. Good luck and surely with a solid plan you guys are going to have an enjoyable time regardless of success! Always wanted to hunt gunnison heard that was a very rough hunt but very rewarding ith tons of elk. the durango/cortez area back in the 90's looked like a California traffic jam. we drove that area seeing if we wanted to hunt it back then, thats why we headed up to the white river wilderness. I Would equate durango / cortez with opening day of dover hunting here close to the valley but for 3 entire seasons. lol buddies have gotten nice bulls and bucks out of that area every year, they told us you just have to deal with it. for a bunch of old guys they were pretty patient

Thanks for the update. that was pretty much the same last year, it was good a few weeks before and a few weeks after, but during it was tough. kid and I covered alot of ground between phx and unit 8 and chino we called in very few and only got 1 shot at one 400 yards away I hit in the butt. personally I think we covered to much ground. we should have stayed in one area like we normally do and call in a bunch. Kid wants to go out sunday so we might head up to unit 8 and hunt below the snow level.

put on make-up?

what is that? one of those North Vietnamese Geisha girls

This ^^^^^^^^^ and the dust guy below. if freezer works thats the only problem you can have.

I know that I just didnt want to say which one you were , you gotta admit when longguner sees that he is going to agree with me

no people cant everything on the net is serious all the time. Since I got rid of my big board I alwasy wondered if people stay up crying and talking about so and so said this or so and so said that. I would get calls 24 7 about someone being picked on. I usually posted the emails on line to show how foolish people can be. the best one ever was the patch pirate guy from cally oh wait there was 2 of them but only one cried about it on emails and phone calls and of coarse the Famous I am going to SUE you letters

Let me guess your the guy with the "DIFFERENT" colored fish

Russians are at it again, i thought the FBI and doj had that all figured out on friday

I thought it was funny when you posted it, had to been a mistake as the reason it got deleted. or someone has a issue with trophy hunters kidney

I scored unit 9 early archery last year with 5 bonus points.. Good luck man yeah I scored unit 8 early bull archery with 0 points 3 years in a row well I got it 2 years in a row daughter got it the 1st year she put in just figured I would rub it in a tad ') I've heard game and fish has a soft spot for the gay community. Probably the reason you got drawn 2 years in a row and probably why you'll draw again the year. How you doing n. I'm heading to shop in a hour swing by if your let out of the kichen and have time in between getting groceries and doing laundry

I scored unit 9 early archery last year with 5 bonus points.. Good luck man yeah I scored unit 8 early bull archery with 0 points 3 years in a row well I got it 2 years in a row daughter got it the 1st year she put in just figured I would rub it in a tad ')

Bear claws the best invetion in the world. we have a few sets as well and works extreamly good for pulled pork.

Tres there is no real learning. its stupidly simple. you look up temp on internet and how they prep it , you toss in wood at bottom in pan turn on and forget it, every once in a while you toss in more wood. and when they say take out wrap with towel and put in cooler do it dont skip this step. I always cook over night its done by 1pm-4:30pm 1st time we did it I got up at 6am started it went back to bed. at midnight it was finished we ate it the next day. Theres this thing called stall ( you will see it on the net from time to time)its real and it last up to 4 hours. you have to go by temp NOT TIME if you dont have a digital meat thermometer buy one we have one in the master built but I bought another wireless one with 2 probes. it reads consistent with the master built. we do pulled pork all the time best its the best we have had always tender and just like real pulled pork from places in kansas, texas etc etc not like the crap at most of these places in arizona. with the exception of the old "Love joys"" one thing you will find is your going to be making your own bbq sauce and rub cause store bought sucks. My kid makes the best it was here idea when she was 10 kinda her and my thing to do together. I never cleaned mined mine, only the racks and grease trap as that way its seasoned. I leave the tar on the sides and window there. it adds alot of flavor if you have dry meat put water in a pan at the bottom. the fattier the meat the better.

I have a masterbuilt as well, leave it outside in the ran and sun dont cover it 24/7 for the last 5 years never failed me

I'll guess and say 9% i'm going to go out on a limb here and say he's the only one that gets drawn, or he messed up on his application

but whats funner is taking your wifes city friends up north to go Christmas tree cutting and giving them pinion nuts, try to watch them eat these with a straight face. they both didnt like them said they tasted like crunchy grass. My wife about kicked my butt cause they were her best friends from LA, stupid liberals

1st and foremost yotes were put on this earth for one thing only and thats Ballistic The indians wont eat yotes but they will eat p-dogs, couple of those older indian women that lived around seligman use to asked us to do head shots and they would go pick them up right after we shot them. people eat dog all the time in different countrys, a yote is no different. I ate dog in Japan at a dog fight once in the 60's, they usually served the loosers. it wasnt bad kinda like todays beef on skewers from a Chinese restaurant but cooked on a old habachi.

How was the hunting? You kill any elk? nope not one. Dad saw a decent one running across a flat right through a camp they fired twice missed.(grand mesa) we saw a ton of sign but weather killed us in the wilderness area. and tons of over 4point deer in whenimuchi wilderness a friend dropped us off on horse maybe15- 20 miles. buddy found one elk dead in a mudbog which was decent. we hiked pretty far after that to the base of the mountain range (that has snow all year long) with the spotting scopes we found tons of elk all sitting on the snow on the side of the mountain. another 5-10 miles away (3 miles as crowflies) probably cause it was 90 f'n degrees up there also. was extreamly hot very high up. that area probably would have been better but a few people were scouting for elk the week before and there plane went down starting a huge fire. Forrest service cut roads through getting to plane. opening morning we saw tons of people seems FS or G&F decided to open the locked gate and atvs and people were everywhere. wish we would have known cause we could have drove to that spot walked 1 mile and been at camp. we were rdy to come home after day 3 but needed horses and had no cell service. buddy came with horses 2 days early to hunt as well we just packed up and headed to his place. and shot some whitetails on his farm. in white river we saw a few. small ones no deer the other place which I cant remember(was straight north of grand mesa about 2 hours) the name open morning saw one cow. I saw 3 big bucks worth shooting so went off after them couldnt connect. then meeting up with dad and friend we figured we would head up this trail. atv after atv driving up trail. This was all back in the mid and late 90's if I do it again with my daughter will be to grand mesa. we hunted early season and middle season

Grand Mesa wilderness area, we had a blast up there lots lots deer and elk and the trout fishing is off the hook. did 4 trips to colorado wilderness areas wish they would have all been at grand mesa. white river sucked, wenamuchie wilderness area sucked and there was one other forget the name. reason they sucks is because most of these socalled wilderness areas allow quads on them in certain areas so you my hike all dang day to a spot only to wake up the next morning with atvs coming in from another direction. Look closes at the forrest service maps. Grand mesa we parked right on the edge next to a lake dad hunted the non wilderness area buddy and I hunted the wilderness area. never saw one person or tracks or people either. we were on the east edge of the wilderness area. one thing always be prepaired carry a space blanket with you and some rope. we were maybe 6 hard miles from the camp and a freak snow storm came it(1st season elk rifle OTC) buddy of mine and I got caught in it. 6 inch of snow on the ground in a matter of a hour or so. in mid morning is was light jacket weather( we just went for a quick hike) I had a day pack with some summer saugage and a space blanket a pack of cigarettes and a lighter as well as water proof matches, buddy had a day pack with a knife and some food as well. snow started and it got cold fast, then came down heavier and heavier. we went under a few trees and a made a make shift lean too then wrapped ourselfs in that one space blanket sitting in front of a small fire. stupid me wore tennis shoes and so did my buddy. after about 3 hours we were freezing and couldnt see as it was almost blizzard conditions. we knew where we walked plus 2 sides were roads on the edge of the wilderness so we put the sun behind us and walked out. we got back just before dark dad was worried but had a huge fire going. Buddy and I both thought we would freeze to death at least it crossed our minds. we were also soak and wet as I fell in a stupid beaver pond that was covered by snow. Defiantly was a great time and my dad who ever since I was a kid always made me carry that stupid wallet sized space blanket goes see I told you it would save your butt when I told him that its a good thing we had that space blanket.

I heard great things about the rtic coolers was going to buy one but there made in china. only bummer for me. Canyon cooler is made in flagstaff, my buddy has a few of them there great. he goes camping every other weekend in the summer with his wife and kids and a ton of friends. never need ices for 4-5 days. I think a few archery shops carry them (the one on deer valley road and maybe Ross) if your looking for a deal on one then you might want to buy a used one, but that would be like using trophy hunters socks