I have been loading 168gr vld hunting in 7mm rem mag and 30-06 for the last 4 years with awesome results. 2 cows with the 7mm dropped right there and 2 cows and a bull with the 30-06 dropped right there and 1 cow that took a 2nd shot. All but 1 round dumped energy inside and never made it past the hide on the opposite side. The round that made a pass through went between ribs through the lungs and between ribs coming out and she dropped right there. All these shots ranged between 52yds and 323yds.