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Thanks. You should see the ones I'm keeping.

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Nice old rig in excellent shape.

Sorry I missed some of the posts above, Wildwoody and 5guys??? The guy saying the bike looked good requested photo's through text and which I sent him. I'll try to get some photos up later today. I'd take $2500. Heck I'd throw in some riding gear too. Chest protector, Knee guards, Helmet, boots.

Take it from somebody that has a ton of experience in the matter of holdovers vs dialing. Some of the opinions in this thread are novice advice at best. I'm fairly proficient with almost everything that has to do with long range. Here's what I accomplished to prove my point that holdovers can exceed dialing in certain scenarios. Bear with me, I'm going to describe a very hard long range steel match in this paragraph to show you how difficult it actually was. Near Ashfork AZ this match was called the AZPRC which was a 40 or more round match. It took place on top of a sandstone mine a couple hundred feet above the desert floor so all shots were down hill. Distances were from 300Y to 1450Y. You had 4 minutes to fire all 10 rounds on 5 steel targets of different sizes and shapes, from big to small, all at random distances and positions, depending on the COF's that were predetermined beforehand. Distance and slope angle were given for each steel target as well. As you might have guessed, each steel was to be engaged twice. Once the first target was fired at, whether hit or miss, you had to re-engage it a 2nd time within 10 seconds to count as a hit, if indeed you did hit it. First round hits were worth 10 points and 2nd round hits were worth 5 points. Speed and precision were paramount. You were forced to find the target which wasn't easy. Each target required repositioning the rifle, rear bag, and settling back in. Since the steel was all over the place within a 120 degree circle from the firing point, a new wind call was required as well. This place was windy too!!! Equipment - I used a Bushnell HDMR/H59 scope in 2011, and a S&B 5-25PM2/H59 for the last half of 2012 season. Both these scopes have a reticle that has .2 mil hash marks and both are FFP scopes, google image that reticle, it seems a busy one but.... Those scopes were on a custom rifle in a 6x47L wildcat cartridge that sent 115 DTAC bullets at 3000 fps. I used a TAB rear bag and a Harris BMRS bipod that swivels. Now comes the subject matter! Long story short I held over 98% of the time using my H59 reticles, I sometimes dialed for the 1080Y and 1450Y steel but all the rest I held over and off for 100%. How well did I do? I WON BOTH SEASONS 2011 and 2012, against AZ's top steel shooters. As well as having the record high score for the daytime matches. Yes there were night matches too, I won some of them but I dialed elevation because the whole reticle was not illuminated. Okay there are plenty of instances where dialing is more beneficial but there are circumstances that holding over and off using a "GOOD" reticle designed for such can be more beneficial. Furthermore a prestigious national or international sniper match (I can't remember which), was won by a military sniper whose new Nightforce F1 3.5-15x50 broke, causing him to have to holdover for the rest of the match. He used a H58 reticle to do this. BTW I use that same scope on my Anschutz 1827F 22 rimfire, often holding over, I'd say more than half the time, in NRL22 matches, winning the Southwest High Desert regional match in 2018. Get a good reticle, practice practice practice your holdovers, and a 500Y shot on a deer or antelope will be a chip shot. I've hit steel at 1900 yards holding over but I did hit a steel at 2500Y quite a few times by dialing 20 mils and using the reticle to holdover the rest of the way. This was with a big cartridge in 30 caliber, and a bigger one at 2500Y, a 375 Cheytac.

I had a 01 Raptor, I liked the Torque.

Sorry man this is a sport quad not a utility quad so no gun rack.

The plastic is kinda ratty because it's old so it's not a looker but it is very fast and stable because it's so wide. It handles waaaaay better than most stock quads.

Yep The scope and rings are $300 more if anyone wants them. Athlon Talos BTR 4-14x44 and DNZ rings.

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Fantastic old rifle!

still for sale

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I had a 30 cal set at 80fpe, honestly it's getting too powerful for a pellet gun. By that point I'd rather grab my Anschutz 22rf at 120fpe with standard velocity. Also 30's gulp air like crazy. As well the 25 cal 34's have the same BC as the 50gr 30 cal. Those are things to ponder...

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Sorry for the late reply, I was out of town camping in a locale that didn't have phone reception. So much I forgot to mention about this gun??!! It's got less than 400 rounds through it and they were light loads. The rifle will come with Lee 223AI dies, these dies resize brass to this chamber perfectly too! I also have 35-ish loaded rounds of 75gr ELDM's that I will include. I've shot a couple 5 shot groups at 100Y with all touching, and last time I shot at 785Y the vertical on steel was 4". It shoots great, almost as well as my 6mmBR, which is part of the reason I'm selling this 223AI, the ballistics are redundant between these two cartridges, I just don't need 223AI anymore. I own the 20-221AI reamer and have a CZ527 that I use a lot so that's another reason I'm selling this rifle. No I don't have the springs for the trigger. Jewel would send them real cheap I bet, maybe free. I wouldn't have any use for the stock either so it needs to go as a whole rifle. Oh and the stock does have a Harris bipod stud on the bottom. I'll lower the price to $1050.

This has the side port cut for the ARC Nucleus action and has the barrel inlet done for a heavier barrel like MTU. Has the DBM cut for PTG system. It will however fit any M700 or clone. $1000 and no 6 month wait. shmonty03@aol.com

Still got it.

Trued stainless M700 short action with 20 vartarg spring and follower. Stainless Benchmark heavy varmint 7 twist at 28" with 6r rifling and throated for 88-95 grain bullets to the lands at 2.6 OACL. I shoot it single shot of course. 260 rounds down barrel and is easily a 1/2 moa rifle with very little load work done and I haven't even finished the seating depth test. My load is 24.6 grains Varget with Hornady 88's/.55 G1 BC and they are going 2814 fps, it's the low node. Our 15" plate at 981Y is no challenge!!! Recoil is so light on this 18 lb rifle/with scope, it's ridiculous!!! Barrel has never been "hot". Offered at additional price is a 20 caliber 5mmFBI(20-221FB AI) 12 twist Pacnor barrel with 450 - ish rounds on it that is headspaced to this action, that shoots awesome! I'll throw in some formed brass and load recipe, Add $250 Jewel trigger set to 5 ounce. It has a 20 moa base but I can't remember what brand. Stock is Blue laminated wood with 3" wide forend and adjustable cheek piece as well as a fancy rear butt system and action is glass bedded to the stock. Comes with 80 loaded rounds, 250 bullets, and Lee dies. $1400 Where are you going to find a full custom at this price???!!! Possible trades are CZ or Anschutz 17hmr, or custom M700-ish clone repeater action. shmonty03@aol.com