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    Eh, I'm bored so I'll post my favorite long range rifle. Or as it may be called here, a Tacticool rifle. I like the term "precision rifle".

    It's a American Rifle Company/ARC Mausingfield action with its included 20 moa picatinny mount, with a Trigger Tech trigger set at 10 oz, in a GRS Bolthorn chassis system which takes AICS type mags. A FFP S&B PM2 5-25x56/H59 in MRAD in ARC 34mm rings. Current cartridge is 6mm Benchrest which I used to hit the steel in the photo. I also used a TAB gear rear bag and a LRA bipod.

    The other photo is a witnessed 10 shots on a 19" steel at 1000Y I did last year. It was windy and why it's wide, but look at that small vertical for 9 of the shots at 1.5"! This thing SHOOTS! Done out of the back of my truck due to the location I shot at which has a slight rise I had to shoot over. I shot all 10 rounds in a minute or so.

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    7 minutes ago, loboscout said:

    Agree wholeheartedly.

    Aiming with holding over is stupid simple to learn. I have had similar experiences. Though they typically need more instruction to make it useful innthe field alone and without the immediate knowledge the experienced shooter has.

    It ain't surgery, but it is kinda like rocket science. The biggest problem is misinformation and ignorance. 

    I love shooting my .22 lr out to 300 yards and more. Yup, it it great training. I have to dial AND hold, lol.

    I just now watched your video, That's a super nice hunting rifle set up and you made a great shot!

    You look familiar, do you go to Rusty's PRS/NRL practice matches. Or maybe it was Christophers match at Wikieup? Maybe we should take this to PM.

    Yeah it's mostly familiarisation, and practice, but instruction certainly speeds up the learning process.  

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    13 hours ago, 10Turkeys said:

    Steve 123,  sorry to point this out, but this being a hunting forum not a shooting forum. How do you think a once or twice a year shooter is going to be able to handle a reticle like this on his Deer rifle,  on a 80lb Coues at say 600 yards.

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    I thought this was appropriate subject matter since this is the "long range forum" and a "holdovers vs dialing" thread??!!

    BTW Horus reticles were originally designed for long range donkey hunting in Australia (invasive species with a bounty on them) because the inventor was having trouble getting enough time to dial his scope before the animals disappeared into the landscape. No I don't work for or are affiliated in any way with Horus.  

    We all have our skill sets and or ability levels - so of course I would expect anyone reading my post to understand where they are at personally in this regard. That's why I mentioned this - "Get a good reticle,""""""practice practice practice your holdovers""""""""", and a 500Y shot on a deer or antelope will be a chip shot.

    A reticle provides information, from that of a single aiming point like a simple crosshair, to the H59 in the image above. Yes that info needs to be learned and there are plenty of resources on the internet to do so.

    DIALING - People don't always dial correctly do they???, I've misdialed, and have seen people make this mistake on many occasions. Stress, in match shooting or in a hunting situation makes making this mistake even more likely. 

    HOLDOVERS/HOLDOFFS - Here's some things I didn't mention that can be an advantage when using the reticle for holdovers/holdoffs.

    #1 It takes time to dial. You have to take your attention off the target/animal to dial your dope, resettle and find the T/A again. The T/A could have moved or the wind could have changed while you did all this.

    #2 If you were holding, you would have "THAT" extra time you used to dial ^^ to find the T/A in the FOV, build a more steady position, have more time to think about what the wind is doing, and get in a well executed shot quicker. It could mean the difference between filling your tag or not! 

    #3 For me, I used those hash marks in the H59 to measure where I hit, or missed, from POA to POI, and compensated for the next shot if need be. 

    BDC reticles - These don't always line up with the trajectory accurately with peoples rifles and loads, especially past 300Y. BDC's provide approximations.

    Like Lobo mentioned there are a number of considerations when taking a long range shot, one is having a good enough range finder to get an accurate distance reading on a less reflective target. Others are altitude, station pressure, temperature, slope angle, wind angle and speed, past these, one must somehow build a steady position within the circumstances of the shot. Also what level of precision is your rifle and load capable of, do you know your exact velocity and BC, do your turrets track correctly and is your reticle true???

    Just things to think about.

    Some of the guys reading this might be interested to know that effective practice with everything I mentioned above can be done with a pellet gun or 22rf. A major reason why I was able to win that longe range series is because I practiced with PCP air rifles, NO I'm not BS-ing. My S&B 5-25 PM2 has a 10 meter close focusing feature on it and it's actually why I bought it in the first place! With this scope mounted on one of the PCP's I used to own, I shot my highest finish in Field Target air rifle, relative to my next closest competitor, I got a 58/60, which was 12 points above 2nd place. Doesn't sound like much but it is. Pellets blow like crazy in the wind so air rifles are fantastic for learning about wind! 

    That same S&B is now mounted on my Anschutz 22rf, both of which have won me a bunch of matches. I do quite a bit of holding over in NRL22 type matches. On a stage in the last match I won, my good friend dialed for the long range stage which caused him to take too much time to get off good shots. I heldover and off and won the stage. He finished 2nd in the match.

    But to back up a bit. I dial as much as I holdover, it all depends on the situation I'm in and what I feel is most beneficial at the moment. 

    My BIL is one of those once a year hunters. Within 5 minutes of teaching him holdovers in that H59 I had him hitting prairie dogs out to 450Y. Many of them head shots around 250Y-300Y. So it's not difficult to learn this stuff.

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