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A very good point and should be every hunter/outdoorsman's touchstone. My own personal perspective is that i am a outdoorsman and conservationist as much as a hunter. I dislike the term "sport hunting". Hunting is the fall outdoor ritual, a ritual passed down from my father and uncle and goes back several millennium. We play a part as the Apex Predator, Fish and Game monitors the big picture with the goal to balance heard size to habitat to hunting pressure. The poor predator has low priority, the goal for now is manage the pressure so we don't wipe them out (otherwise they become endangered species). Yes I still get that "Thrill of the Hunt" feeling but feel that we are more than takers. We have a synergistic relationship with game, wildlife and the outdoors. Many hunters are involved with conservation as in the many groups along the lines of Ducks Unlimited and the different Elk Societies. Not every hunter is involved to that level but their Pittman Robertson taxes and political support help keep conservation and FG Dept. healthy and viable. Habitat enhancement and habitat protections supported by hunters helps all, that is ALL wildlife not just the game species. There has been attempts to tax other outdoor equipment ala Pittman Robertson act, you could hear the cries of no from coast to coast. Without the hunting constituency Politicians would take money out of conservation and use it in other ways to buy more votes. Without hunters Audubon Society, Sierra Club would not have enough boots on the ground or as big a voice to support habitat enhancement or protection. Habitat out west is so chopped up by cities, highways and other development that without a FG Dept. to monitor it all and unchecked predators would eat out these isolated island of habitat and the resulting level of wildlife would be much lower. DO NOT EVER EVER GIVE YOUR ENEMIES EASY WAYS TO ATTACH OR HARM YOU

True this is the first step. This is also true, it gives the first step to banning awesome traction.

I am a traditional hunter and strongly believe in fair chase. Also strongly believe fair chaise does not apply to coyotes. That said, in this day and age killing contests like this have very bad optics.

No, but thanks for the offer. I should have asked "What is your comfort level with reloading brass that ran a little hot?" Not asking to bust your balls more interested in others perspective. But we got a good real world experience from lance so looks like he answered the question.

great thread just now going on at snipers hide. What match are you doing? My range bag has ammo (up to 100 rounds), 2 10 rounds mags, open bolt indicator (most matches have extra), bipod, bags (other shooters will let you use theirs), note book, DOPE or ballistic app, dope card for multi distance long range stages.

What are you planning to do with the brass that was maxed pressured ?

Picked up a pair of Meopta 12X just before the hunt, My son was going to use my 10X Zeiss. After many years of using the 10X I found the 12X a nice & useful improvement.

Factory Hornady 270 WIN 140 SST Superformance because it is sub MOA in my custom light weight MOD 700, Factory Hornady 270 WIN 145 Precision Hunter because its sub MOA in my MOD 70 Winny, Factory FED 270 WIN 150 Fusion because its sub MOA in my MOD 70 featherweight, Factory 6.5C Hornady 143 Precision Hunter because its sub MOA in my Seekins Havak, Factory FED 243 WIN 95 Fusion because its sub MOA in my MOD 70 featherweight. Sierra GK in any caliber for any of my rifles because they load up at MOA or less. Guys its Coues deer, mostly you need any half decent bullet to hit where you want it to (very critical) within the range that you deliver enough energy to do the job (also important). SST's have been deadly on Coues 250 to 300 multiple times. Precision hunter did solid job at 350 and Sierra GK on Elk, Coues and mule deer multiple times and varied ranges. Fed Fusion never on game but being accurate I feel very comfortable they will perform on delivery. My short and sweet thoughts.

Great shot given what sounds like limited experience. 400 yards is a respectable distance in the field. I have had good groups with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo out of 2 6.5C's and a 270 WIN. Congrats.

desert, well when you are no longer in the Palo Verde and cholla zone then you kinda transitioning from desert. Mesquite, ocotillo and grass mixing in some oak then figure you are leaving "desert" behind. Not necessarily scientific, just a way to calibrate it.

WE had a couple cold nights, but sunny days with no wind.

4/5 mi west of KBarter but during early NOV hunt.

Well I did not figure where but thanks for sharing how. Looks like helping with the water tanks, troughs and miles of pipe is a big area that help would be appreciated.

Nice brag. Where and how?

15 years ago we had a local ranching family, who were great about letting hunters cross their place, sell to someone from back east. First thing a lock went on the property. No problem found new places to hunt from in the vicinity. Never tried to talk to them because we had workarounds. Since had reports not such a nice individual. Last year found another gate locked just before you accessed FS land. Individual ended up in a spat with FED's and State and out of frustration anger closed access. It was a big surprise, walked up to ranch house and talked to his wife and found she and I had a lot in common professionally and mutual friends. He was not in the mood to grant access. Again had familiarity with the area from pond jumping for ducks and found a new camp to base out of. Called them again this year and maybe could have gotten access but our comings and goings back into the CNF was to complicated. Went to scout the new spot in October and bam smack into a new locked gate. The road that was cut off ran about 1/4 mile along the west edge of a smaller isolated block of private ground then back on FS ground. The ranch manager told state that gate was left open and had to do extra work to regather the cattle. State and USFS offered to put in a free cattle guard, offer was turned down. This last absentee owner is beyond rich from out of state and cut off public use of a dirt road that ran along the edge off isolated empty 100acre pasture for only a short distance before back on FS land.

Just upgraded binocs for this years hunt. Got the Meopta 12X binocs almost as nice as Swaros at near 1/3 the price. Was very happy with them, picked out a beaded doe at 300+ just because i saw what looked like "rabbit ears", took a little extra time then she twitched her ears. Just enough better than my older 10X Zeiss to make it worthwhile. Still not sure what I am missing by not buying Swaros, but still have the $1,700.00 that that upgrade would have cost .I am ok to be called out on the Swaro difference but would always rather use binocs than scope and I don't feel the need to carry both.

GlockMiester Bell/2500Eish $25 if I recall rightly

Assuming MOD70? Did it still have steel butplate?

In the case I first heard it "the uniform don't make the man" hence the "paraphrasing" qualifier.

Retired Navy Pilot and Army Sniper son, we good with 6.5C. I will paraphrase my Marine DI, GYSGT Brown USMC. "the cartridge don't make the man the man makes the cartridge".

jdown with such refined spot and stalk skills why the 300WMag? Is that so you don't have to gut they?

Nov 13th in S AZ, mid 20's that morning. Yep bore was not overly warm at 10:00 AM when my son spotted a small buck at 450yds. He got set up with trigger sticks and I called his dial up for next shot opportunity at a 350yd opening in the trees. I told him "take the shot if you get one". I am on my new Meopta 12X (nice glass, great glass for the $) and the buck is just about through the opening and BOOM in my right ear(good ear). I was on it and watched as the doe came out of trees a little lower down and the buck trailing her was not doing well from what I could tell watching glimpses of him through the trees. For maybe a minute or so no sign of the buck then I see him pile up just above where I last saw his doe friend. My son had not shot that rifle before and had done limited shooting in last two years since Army discharge. We did get him to a PRS match in SEPT. Shot was dead on, took the buck mid ribs angled through lungs liver and out paunch on off side. 270 WIN 145 gr through and though at 350. Not that far of a shot but far enough that having me spot the shot and watch what the buck did next was a big help. Cover was thick enough that without eyes on through the whole event it would have presented challenges for a solo shooter to keep track of the buck in that terrain.

I am looking for a pre 64 MOD 70 for a donor action. If you have a MOD with messed up stock/barrel but nice action would like to buy.

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