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Bergara Premier mountain rifle. accurate, sweet trigger and action that runs nice.

Truly shooting from the hip here. After the rut bucks are vulnerable because they have used a lot of energy/fat reserves, not much left in the tank for that startled sprint when a predator surprises you and gets close and its full energy burst sprint or die. Does herd up normally and guessing bucks join in this behavior for added security or at least if you are not the slowest you wont get eaten? Seems like this is normal behavior for this time of year.

Sold last week 520 without scope

Quick someone buy this before we get a "Broke Back Mountain" bump.

I would echo this experience, I have had similar with my first three elk. Two where taken at 300 plus and this is where a partner spotting for you is critical. In one case I hiked down into a gully and up it a little and nothing looked the same as it did 300 yards away, took a little doing but found him right where I last saw him.

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Location please

its a plastic REM stock epoxy beaded but not pillars LOP 13 the barrel I had put on is a little heavier than a standard MOD Seven.

When my GF started shooting with me she would jump at loud reports from shooters on the next bench. When going with me tp PRS matches she also would startle at rifles discharging nearby. For the last 12MO she has been shooting 22NRL and 22 Silhouette. It has been a great way to get her a foundation of comfort around shooting and guns going bang.

I have never heard of a "minimum safe load" as far as black powder is concerned. For black powder a safe load is one that will get the ball out the barrel. As far as substitute powder for BP not sure if its the same?

You are correct about the tip. On the Hornady site SST tip is not advertised as the heat resistant type but after that the bullets are not the same. Hornady has an awesome video on the ELD-X and what they describe is exactly what my experience been. Very accurate and solid terminal performance.

Most of my deer have gone down to 165 Sierra GK out of 30-06. Had a 165 through and through both shoulders on a deer at 80 yardsish and through a spike bull at 60 yds bullets held up and exited even at a zippy speed you might not see out of the 308. More recently been using 270WIN and had my first chance to take a deer with ELD-X. It was a 350 yard shot and hit just ahead of mid ribs and exited other side back of the diaphragm, I thought the bullet did well to cross through the body lungs and paunch and make an nice exit hole of decent size. The ELD-X has good BC, been accurate and performed well that one time for us.

I don't get the bumpstock angst. Did you feel your right to own an AR with a 30round mag was diminished because you can't get a bumpstock? Are bumpstocks accuracy or long range enhancers? To me they re a gimmick pointless to ban and not worth trading political capitol to fight for. Maybe more jawboning about how it was a gimmick that did not make anything more dangerous and that ANTIS were just show boating. I do not feel our 2A rights were in anyway diminished by this silly ban.

I like that AZ has a draw for each species with 5 hunt choices. Last I used UT you got I application that you had to put your choices on Deer, Elk once in a lifetime, that's the part I did not like.

I am full up on 270win rifles and this is tempting.