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Correct. The energy in a high velocity copper bullet upon smacking hard rocks is converted into heat, which means molten copper. Lead bullets just don't generate as much fire potential because its a softer metal with a lower melting pot. Dirt absorbes the energy differently and does not results in hot molten copper slag.

Keep in mind that an all copper bullet smacking a hard rock has the greatest potential for starting a fire.

Exact same for me. Needed to get glass right before a hunt a couple of years ago and ran down to Cabela's to check out the options. I was looking at the Meoptas the BX5 and Swarovski. Leupold's were heavy and felt clumsy looking through. Swaros just enough better looking through than the Meoptas but not twice the price better. Very pleased with my Meopta 12X50's.

The Trapdoor Carbine and the M16 also shared a common flaw, both rifles would jam with fired cases stuck in the chambers.

CampTime Roll-a-Cot. I am 5'11" 200lbs and these cots work great , very comfortable easy to set up and pack up. First used them on a Wester River Expeditions Colorado River trip. They were great to sleep on and figured if an outfitter used them they must be sturdy. Bought ours 5 years ago and never slept so well in deer camp and thats going back 40 years of hunting.

I shot a bull low in the ribs behind front leg, this was rifle hunt and it was 180gr 30 cal at 370 yards. I just was able to track it and found him collapsed at least 250 yards up the mountain. A double lung shot with the bullet up against the far side hide. His chest was full of blood and his lungs were both collapsed. Made a big impression that bulls dead on their feet can cover some ground. Interesting your dad's bull made it about the same distance.

Did they know you were there? Are atvs allowed off trail in NF?

Good to see you are not feeling too Cyrillic.

Put me in line I'll take it.

Back then and in the 50's a lot of record temps from back then still stand.

There is no such thing as inexpensive aviation.

Pour over filter cones work well and take very little time and zero cleanup.

Retired but when I operated heavy equipment (80 ton) I was union. They have their good aspects and their not so good side. A Union can't fix a bad industry, can't fix a bad economy and if you have bad management can't fix that either.

How old is Jake? My lab Glenys ran around the mountains and marsh with me up to 111/12 years old.

Mule deer are a much bigger challenge. The way they freeze and stare at you when you come up on them makes it so hard to stay calm and make a clean shot. Coues are so dang touchy they bolt at anything, dang hate those shots at running bucks.

He will remember that for the rest of his life

I total missed that angle, yep a Goveror's tag would be way nice.

Thats awesome. My next door neighbor growing up was a P38 Lighting Fighter Pilot in WWII, he is still with us. My other neighbor was a USA Infantry in Europe. Dad drove an ambulance in Northern Italy and his brother in law was a FWD A artillery observer for the USMC starting out at Guadalcanal. Dads other brother in law got shot down over Germany flying B-24's. taken as POW. My Grandmother's Cousin was a field surgeon in the Hedge Rows and taken POW, that was early in the EURO campaign. My God Father was in flight training when the war ended and his older brother was a P-47 pilot in Europe. One of Dad's law partners had one leg the other was crushed under the treads of a Japanese Tank. I might have forgotten a few others but one thing stands out, for the most part all very great guys. BTW I ended up flying Navy Anti Submarine in the Cold War and my son went Army Sniper at tail end of the Gulf Wars. Most of the guys I served with had similar backgrounds and most had son's that served.

I can't see you being good with flying in getting to a stand and told "here shoot that one".

That does not look like AZ

Winchester MOD 70 in 270, 280 or 30-06. The 270 with the Hornady 145gr ELD-X Precision Hunter ammo is traveling along at 2162fps and carrying 1500 ft/lbs of energy which should work on Elk. Magnums kick a bit and make it unpleasant to shoot and with a muzzle break the blast is also quite unpleasant to shoot. To be proficient at ranges past 500 it would require a fair amount of shooting at ranges you might think you want to be proficient at. 600-700 yard shots call for a scope with dialup turrets. a LRF (laser range finder), a ballistic app with a tuned up BC and MV for your setup and rounds and rounds downrange. Do you have the time and desire to put in a year or two getting comfortable hitting first shot at 600? Unless you like extra power or are serious about shooting past 500 yards, a magnum is not necessary. I have 4 MOD 70's classics from when they first reintroduced them and they are all accurate. The two newer 270's and a 243 shoot under and inch with both Federal Fusion and Hornady ELD-X ammo. Lots of good factory ammo choices for the 270,280 & 06 (you never mentioned reloading). If you don't plan on shooting past 500 then you save money on ammo and optics so heck buy a MOD 70 Supergrade for a few bucks more. Sure free float and definitely bed the action and the trigger on the MOD 70 is tunable by any competent gunsmith.

Glennys was the first pup we had the Vet come to the house and had her put to sleep at home, for me the only way to do it. She was 13 1/2 and was there with my two boys since they were toddlers and went along we me for 11 years of duck season on the marshes around the Great Salt Lake. I can't say I trained her but more like coached her retrieving instincts to a point we were a functioning duck getting team. She kept me company on many a hike in the mountains above Salt Lake City, kept me in shape. When they pass you feel how much they were a part of our live and experiences and it a Big Zinnger when they pass so soon. Now we have Charley in our lives and she is all joy and energy.

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