AZAV8ER

Whats a UTV??? I am a 63 year AZ native and have hunted AZ, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming. AZ hunting is still pretty good in my book.

My first 5-6 years of coues hunting was straight south of Ruby practically on the border.

ran into this the last coupe years in 35B. basically land owner can deny access. Have had conversations with FS access co-rdinator and the fix is build a road to bypass the private. But its the government and the BS bureaucracy is slow to grind out. Good luck.

hit here oct comes here we come

I am waiting for stories indicating that smugglers bringing in cheap Chinese or Iranian guns and ammo to sell to Cali crooks.

Ahh bare stick bow with wood arrows

In my limited experience the post 64 MOD 70 push feed was a very nice rifle. I love the MOD 70 safety and the trigger was consider solid and easy to tune up. The one 270 I had produced nice groups and 20-20 hindsight don't think I would have sold it. But where or who told you that this rifle would sell for $1200.00?

Hey I am a big 270 fan, I have two REM 700 customs builds and two Winchester MOD 70 Classics's. When you compare 6.5C to the 270 WIN loaded Hornady ELD-X ammo the 6.5 at 500 yards has 2030 ft/lbs and 1300 fps the 270 2157 ft/lbs and 1497 fps. Yes the 270 has a slight edge but bottom line they are both essentially the same. So 6.5C near the same for lower recoil and very accurate factory ammo vs 270 running a little ahead and with the ability of using 150 grainers, so pretty close.

Dang you would think that there would be enough energy to to blast chunks of bone and lead all through the lungs shredding arteries and veins and kill that sucker. One of the fastest kills on a deer was quartering facing shot that I had a 150 30cal hit the heaviest part of shoulder blade and blow up. It flipped butt over end and landed dead (saw hooves in my scope pointing skyward). Everything inside that ribcage was shredded.

looks like two copper cups. Did the bear stop after the first shot? Where are the bigger chunks of lead? No exit holes?

Hey a plain old cup and core Sierra or Speer in 200 gr 30 cal should be fine on elk and the ELD-X is a step or two up in robustness. 200 gr 30 has a lots of SD, mass and momentum. My one experience with ELD-X was in 270 at 350 yards on deer and it went through and through with one exit.

One more hunter pleased with ELD-X performance on game.

I have 8 boxes for sale $22 a box or $160 for the whole lot.

SPF

What caliber and how many rounds fired to get this degradation?

Has anyone here ever shot out a 270? If so how many rounds did it last? By shot out I mean from near MOA/sub MOA to over 1.4 MOA.

I am not experiencing a problem just wanting to set parameters. For some shot out is going from .3 MOA to over .7 MOA.

What? Is he looking to save the endangered S AZ Grizzly Bears? He must be hoping to get PR and tree hugger $$$$ out of this.

OK so advertised organized killing contests are out, too bad so sad. But you and your buds are free to go out park your trucks and agree to whatever contest you cook up right then and there and get to still blast away at yotes. Not seeing a problem. Defending "killing for fun contests" is a whole different thing than defending predator control. The contests have a whole negative optic that just hard to defend.

A wire mesh fence? Three strand barbed wire wont hold them.

I have been taking a buck every year for about 10 years with a 7# 270win. I find the rifle a little light for that cartridge (if you are not on the gun with good form it can get away from me, throwing the shot). Last year my son made a solid 350yd shot with a standard MOD70 270win withe a good sized scope, a solid set up guessing close to or around 9/9+#. Given my experience I am going to start carrying a MOD70 featherweight (a total misnomer) that would split the difference at right around 8# or just shy. so my preference for something 30-06, 280 or 270win is 8 lbs.

The area in 35B we hunted last NOV had these claim markers all over it.

My son got his first buck this last season with the 145 ELD-X out of a 270WIN very good performance at 350 yds.

Not true in AZ, down in 35B land owners have blocked access to the NF

There is always Casper WY. From the Casper airport you get to Denver or Salt Lake City both are great hubs for getting around the country.