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Speaking conquest wise, I think the new Zeiss are better. Brightness is equal but the Zeiss win in clarity, but not by a lot. Don’t think they make a 12x though. It would depend on how much each was if that makes sense. They are pretty close to my eye. rokslide has the tract 12.5x for everywhere from $525-$650.

For reference I own tract toric 10x42 and a tract toric scope. Also have Leica, swaro. Most made in Japan binoculars from good companies are made my kamakura, then rebranded. (Look at the toric spotter and the leupold Santiam sx5 angled spotter to see what I’m talking about, or compare the razor LH line to the toric scopes.) supposedly the toric line is made here. Zeiss conquests have been made there, leupold, vortex razor, and I’ve heard maven as well. Kamakura isnt putting out a list obviously so I’m hesitant to say definitively on a list. None of this means the build is the exact same, as they are still building with each companies specified glass, coatings, etc, but if true the build quality should be equal. I know OP didn’t say it but the Meopta meostar line is made in Czech republic with flourite. Next tier stuff for sure. Based on my experience with the above, the torics compare about equally to the vortex razor HD line if that helps. Similar feel to Zeiss conquests as far as build, brightness, etc from a few years ago but the new conquests seem a bit crisper so I’m curious what Zeiss did differently. I’ve not compared directly to the HD GPO, just the ED line and it was substantially better. Not compared to maven. I suspect tract/maven/Gpo would come down to who you prefer for magnification/dimensions, what your eye likes for coatings, etc. as all (could probably add in the leupold sx5 and vortex razor line) fall into the “96% of Swarovski for 50% of the price” category. I'm in the market for 12.5x50 also so I’ve been looking around a lot. FWIW, my short list is down to tract or used meopta meostars. My short list is down to those two for a spotter as well. Tract is a great company and extremely responsive to anything you need. Great warranty, and the owners of the company are actively engaged in customer service and are the ones answering emails. My eyes just like them. I think you could go with them and happily never look back . The meopta seem to be the sleepers for sure though. As mentioned above, they are using flourite glass and are much closer to swaro/Leica/Zeiss as far as anything mentioned. Meostars can be had regularly for the price you mentioned as well. Good luck in the search!

I’ve been on both ends of that situation up there before, sometimes on the same trip, awesome for helping. Deer looked healthy at least

Came from the north. Roads good to go. No sheds but glassed up a lot of elk and deer. Didn’t see or hear any turkey

These are stupid accurate

Sold

I have a pair of Leica 15x56 HD geovids for sale. Rangefinding and they are the version that reads in yards. They range out to about 1000 yards. Includes the outdoorsman’s adapter ring. Have been hunted with and been in the field. Some lens swirls from cleaning that were there when I got them that do not affect view, but priced accordingly. These are great glass and have found a lot of animals and a chance to get alpha glass at a non-alpha price. They were sent back to Leica in June of 2021 to fix a stuck diopter and were repaired, gone through and cleaned. I’m not the original owner, bought them from CWT in 2019. Have case, no lens covers I think $1100 obo is a fair place to start, but if I’m way off, let me know or send an offer. Cross listed on rokslide. Would trade for swaro 15x56 plus cash on my end. Located in Mesa and work downtown Phoenix. Would prefer FTF so buyer can confirm view is not affected but can figure out shipping as well. Thanks

Heading up this weekend I’ll let you know if bojangles doesn’t sooner

Perfect for spring scouting

Smoking deal

I had the same bug hit me a few months ago after handling one. Can’t find a bad review on one but curious any first hand feedback as well

Free bump for a great pair of optics, glws

That was quick!

Seeing tag number too but no hunt number yet. Youth hunt though

Tag numbers are up in portal but not what hunt

So we just got hit for an adult and a youth tag.

Congrats crazymonkey! still haven’t seen any antelope hits outside one that wasn’t the poster who’s friend may have drawn one on MM

Fair enough

Still odd to me no one has a pronghorn hit yet

Anyone seen any antelope hits?

Seeing youth hits posted too

Congrats on a great tag!!!

This was my math too. They posted the cc card update deadline on 2-23 last year, with the deadline being a week out

Nice guns