Eli

Elk hits started around 7:30 so we have a bit that being said, the last few years have had some firsts so who knows

These are always the threads I look forward to the most. Like Christmas morning.

I’ll play…… Email Friday, card deadline Monday or Tuesday is my guess. 0720 on the 18th

I have three axis rifles. All are sub moa guns. GLWS

I’m not saying it is or isn’t about money or right or wrong or anything else. That was just a reason given by AZGFD when it was started

Part of the push behind it was to give adults from out of state a chance to get the bonus point without filling up all the classes and in state kids not being able to get in.

That’s a cool gun, GLWS

Looking for work or a new system?

Looking at the pics they are the Japan made vipers. Surprised these haven’t sold.

Nice gun

Nice gun

Man, I was thinking the same thing. Congrats to those who punched tags. We got into birds and gobbles and had a blast but couldn’t seal the deal.

Nice gun

Flight control wads are pretty crazy with buckshot too. I’ve seen some guns stack some tight 40-50 yard groups with those

@Cambow has a 243 ruger American listed somewhere in here for a good price

My understanding is it was like the old Winchester 1 of 100 or 1 of 1000 editions for the 1873 and 1876. All vanguards are guaranteed sub-moa. During testing, some obviously exhibit higher accuracy than others, and these are set aside for that series. I forget the specs for the old Winchester program but I believe the top 10% were going to 1/100 series and top 1% to the 1/1000 series or something like that. Similar concept but unknown on what level of accuracy above sub-moa designated it as one. From what I’ve heard from people with them, they are shooters, but there is no heightened accuracy guarantee. Nice rifle and GLWS

Interesting. What kind of range are you getting with that?

My wife was quick to point out that each shell costs about as much as just buying a frozen turkey. Not nearly as much fun though

So per the regs, not that you would but since it doesn’t specify size, buckshot would also be legal then?

I’m not sold one way or another yet honestly. More testing needed. Both targets would have been dead turkeys.

Funny you mention that, our next trip out was to shoot both closer and further to see how it did. The blended loads of TSS and lead are designed to address the issue you speak of where they are supposed to open a little faster up close but still have the shot density down range. From what I can find, the gel penetration is better than #4 lead at 40 yards. Only time will tell for us guess . I’ve heard the long beard is a crusher of a load but I’m having a heckuva time finding any in 20ga. Midway just got some in in #6

My son’s turkey gun is a 20 ga so the tss #9 was a little cheaper. Bottom target was a Remington #5 nitro turkey at 30 yards. Top target was a TSS#9 at 40 yards. It was impressive.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026979695?pid=886549 just came out in email today

Not sure if you’re on there but rokslide usually has a few, may be worth a look too

Hoss, I forgot that aspect of the bonus pass that they go by point total, nice explanation. Thanks