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EASY ONE!!!! It's obvious what the 'trick answer' is!!!! OJ!!!!! S.

I still think there is a 'Chicken Little' thing going on here.... I personally don't think the sky is falling..... I would have to think that most drinkers are not placed for the 'sole purpose of attracting a big game animal', so much as placed for the purpose of 'helping a big game animal, by providing a water source....'. I'm sure that to some extent, I'm ignorant. But it seems to me that the spirit of the new baiting legislation/laws is to keep people from baiting (whether by salt, grain, corn, or water) for the sole purpose of HUNTING the animal, as opposed to placing a drinker to allow an animal to drink! When a hunter sets-up a salt lick, in general, it is for the purpose of attracting animals so they can be killed. When the G&F (or a rancher...) sets-up a water source, it is generally for the purpose of helping the animals survive by providing them a water source. Yes??? Do you agree?? How many drinkers (or tanks, troughs, etc.) are placed there for the specific purpose of hunting over them? I don't expect the G&F to be 'nice guys'. I expect them to be 'reasonable guys', and I sinerely think that most WM Officers are just that. I think we all understand the spirit of this new law, and I think we know that it has nothing to do with drinkers, tanks, troughs, etc... To answer your question; YES, I expect that the average G&F Wildlife Manager will make a good decision as to whether he is going to site someone for hunting over a tank/drinker, as apposed to hunting over salt that he (the hunter) placed specifically for the purpose of attracting the animal to kill it. S. Read the proposed rule: "An individual shall not take big game with the aid of edible or ingestible substances, including salt or salt based products, placed for the purpose of attracting a big game animal to a specific location." Water is ingestible substance and and a drinker is definitely "placed for the purpose of attracting a big game animal to a specific location". (Could a cow tank be included with a drinker? I don't know) If a ticket were issued, if a judge could read this rule and easily convict you. Your only protection is the officer deciding not issue a ticket. Do you really trust G&F to pass a rule and then to be nice guys and only selectively enforce it? Mark

Do you really think you're going to get a ticket for hunting over water Mark????? Seriously, are you worried about it? Or are you just stirring the pot on the baiting topic??? S.

Way to go Riley!!!!! Congrats on your first elk!!! I'll be sure to show the pic to the boys when I get home from work tonight! S.

Outstanding!!!! Thanks for sharing the story and pic, and congrats on your archery kill!!! I have a question though. I've been a novice archer for several years. By novice, I mean that I never got into it in a hard core way and I don't shoot on a regular basis (hence, I don't archery hunt much...). My question though is regarding your comment about 'holding a little high to compensate for the uphill shot.....'; I always thought you should hold low to compensate for an uphill shot?? Again, being a total novice, I'm interested in this comment so as I grow my skills so I can improve as an archer..... I always thought that given 'physics' and the natural laws of gravity, that you should hold low (with a rifle or bow.....) while shooting on an incline or a decline of any significance.... Is this not true? Any hard-core bow shooters wanna comment please???? Thanks! S.

Spot n' stalk on a big ol' bull elk! Awesome!!!! Thanks for sharing! S.

Those that have been around a camp fire with me know that I can sometimes have a VERY foul mouth. Like most, I suppose.... As far as foul language on this site though, I try to limit it quite a lot. Primarily for the reasons that Amanda has pointed-out above. I don't really see this as a censorship issue though. This is not a public forum (as much as it might seem like it....). It is a private place that Amanda started, and she obviously has the right to set the tone she wants. To me it is more a matter of respect. We all know the type of site that Amanda is trying to run here, and I personally don't find it very hard to limit my foul language. It reminds me of when I go see my mom, mother in law, or sister, or someone like that. I'm NOT going to use foul language for the few hours I might be with her cuz I know she wouldn't not appreciate it. That's how I look at this place.... All that being said, I can definitely appreciate the fact that at the end of the day this is a hunting website, and there is plenty of times when the extra color in the written words help GREATLY to make the desired point. It's always going to be that way, and I think Amanda realistically knows this.... S.

Congrats on a great hunt Hector & Scott! Great write-up & pics!! Love this time of year!!!!! S.

Cool video! Thanks for sharing!!!! S.

Seems like mathews' response summed this topic-up pretty well; It's all a matter of opinion! LOL To mathews, asking what unit a buck was taken in is 'a dumb question'. To me, it is simply 'a question'..... I've been asked MANY questions through-out my life. IMO, the 'dumb questions' are ones where the answer is obvious, hence there was no need to ask in the first place. Again, it looks to me like this topic is like many. Your position on the topic will depend on your opinion! And each of us has one! LOL I just find it funny that someone would complain about someone asking. Dumb question or not, simply don't answer if you don't want to! S.

I guess that I agree with bowsniper and donnident on this topic. First Mark's point; The hunting units are HUGE! Telling someone you killed a trophy in a particular unit really doesn't give them any info that is useful over & above what they could get out of the G&F regulations anyway... Secondly though, I agree with donnident; What is the harm in someone asking??? Don't answer the question if you don't want to. It's that simple... S.

Outstanding deersandbeers!!!! LOL S.

Great buck!!!! Thanks for sharing! S. PS: Looks a bit like that buck Mikey Bool (rest his soul...) killed a few years ago....

Thanks for showing more pics Scott! I love the tractor shots on the original set of pics. Those critters are SO freaking huge!! Do you have any 'skinning' pics? I'd love to see the size/scale as you're getting the skin off that huge boy! S.

Way to go! VERY cool, and great pics!!! Congrats! S.

Whoa!!!! HUGE bull!!!!! Thanks for sharing! S.

Outstanding! Congrats to the hunters!!! S.

Very cool Jim!!!! Awesome story!!!! Sincere congrats on a great deer! S.

I'll be down in "A" with a friend starting Thursday evening. We've camping & hunting N/E of Arivaca. Maybe we'll stop by!! Good luck to you!!! S.

Excellent! Thanks for sharing!!! I hunted muleys ONLY for many years until bitten by the coues bug a few years ago..... Makes me miss the old days a bit! S.

Awesome story Cody! Congratulations on a great budk, and thanks much for sharing!!! S.

Gutpile, sincere congratulations on the success and fulfillment of your boy's hunt! I echo Brian's sentiments. NOTHING like a 'kids' hunt!!! (whether it's a doe, cow, buck, bull... doesn't matter!)! Thanks a bunch for sharing! Myself and my children were up on the Kiabab last weekend as well. As soon as I get a chance, I'll post a couple of pics and a quick story of our weekend. In summary though, my youngest son killed his first deer and his little sister was there with him all the way. Good stuff!!! Again, thanks much for sharing the pics/story! S.

You're kidding, right???? You actually tapped it and watched it??? JK.... No doubt she's good looking.... S. :-)

Nicely done Christian (and Randy...... and Tyler, Cory, etc...)! Good luck with the junior hunt next weekend! S.

Thanks for the reminder Amanda!!! I'll call my dad in a bit. He was a navigator in a B-17 bomber over Europe in WWII. Many close calls while there, including getting shot-down over France only to get back to England and find himself back in the seat of another B-17!!! I never get tired of his stories, and my admiration of what he did NEVER subsides!!! Thank you to ALL vets!!! S. :-)