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I had the same question. Turns-out that each volunteer shooter will only be killing ONE bison. (Yes, I also had the same question regarding how in the heck they plan on meet their objective by only killing 12....) I think they are looking at this initial go-around as a bit of a pilot. If it goes as planned/hoped, more bison will be killed via this model in the future.

Saying how it is and how you see it are not always the same thing. That being said, yeah, I guess you never really knows what goes on behind the closed doors..... I'll wait to see what happens prior to assuming a conspiracy is brewing though.

Reminds me to be so grateful for each day I have with those who are precious to me. Sincere condolences to you and yours! 🙏

I'll be curious to see how this plays out. One line in the write-up from Kurt that caught my eye; "Public skilled volunteers will be able to harvest a single bison with the head, hide, and meat entrusted to the department, then transferred in exchange for removal.". Curious what that means..... Just legalese that the bison gets "transferred" to the hunter, I hope??? https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/11/10/bison-reduction-pact-benefits-grand-canyon-herd/?fbclid=IwAR2kS5mQtai4l9CS6zDOGwFLEFOuER6xhfh0aMRYY1D4MGmco0YjD4VJd1E

That number doesn't surprise me in the least. This has been all over the internet and was super easy to apply for online.....

I keep seeing the hole in that pronghorn you shot last fall, Lance! 😂

No idea. From a 'practical' perspective, I would say; Why not? But from a technical perspective, since they are trying hard to NOT classify this as a 'hunt', I'm thinking they may not want to distribute anything that could be seen as a trophy, so I wouldn't be surprise if they are not going to let folks keep the hides/heads.

Welcome to AZ and this site! Stick around and browse (and contribute) to the forums here. You'll see opportunities to socialize and connect. S.

We were sort of 'running & gunning' up and down the river all day, and didn't really take much time for trophy pics. We went to one of our regular producing holes yesterday just before leaving so my oldest son could catch a few to take home for dinner, though. This is the only fish pic we took.

Pretty good weekend up on the Black River with my sons. Fishing was decent, and turkeys were gobbling. (Trphyhntr is correct regarding what he heard about permits. Need to get them at the casino Chevron.) Game ranger checked us on Saturday, and said there were 120 Black River permits issued for that day. Seems like it's going to get hammered pretty good this summer, given it is still spring. Also saw this fatty!! IMG_3821.MOV

Ya, it's interesting . Given the target reduction numbers, I also assumed that the shooters would kill multiple bison each. I have now heard (not through an 'official', but through someone who knows an official very well) that each shooter will only kill a single bison. Of course then my mind immediately goes to the thought of 'How in the heck are they going to make a dent in the population by shooting only 12 bison???'.... I was told that this is sort of an initial pilot-run to see how it works. For me, I'm still interested. If nothing else, it would be an experience. Of course, the odds are going to be VERY long regarding getting selected, so I imagine I'll be sitting here reading the results/news about it on the internet.

Not worried at all! I'll be camouflaged. Taking my hippie beetle-bus!

Yup!!! Count me in!

I'm definitely on the opposite side of the fence on this (pun, intended...). I'm in! Will it be a circus? Yes, possibly, likely..... But I figure, what the heck!

Ya, I get it. The 'turning loose...' was more of a figure of speech. My point was that I seriously doubt they would simply leave it up to the shooter to do all of the butchering. For sure, I totally agree with the point about observation/supervision!

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there will be plenty of 'official' help along for the field care. They likely just want to make sure that all participants know they will be expected to help in every way, but there is NO way they are going to turn 12 shooters loose inside the park and expect those shooters to be 100% responsible for the mean care on all of the buff.

They are planning on letting each shooter keep one bison. The verbiage in the FAQs looks more like legalese to me.....

They've thought about that and virtually ALL sorts of other options. It is not a G&F problem, only. It is in the park, and hence there is BIG TIME red-tape in dealing with them. Putting-up a fence sounds easy until you're dealing with the regulations inside of a national park. I'm honestly amazed they were able to get the park service to agree to letting shooters in to do this.

Just a theory, indeed. I like it, but thinking in practice it really wouldn't be feasible (In fact, getting rid of all the water would likely be impossible...). I was talking to a park employee while I was up scouting for my bison hunt last summer. He was sort of mentioning this same thing, in that if they could 'bison proof' all of the water in the park, the animals would go elsewhere. The practicality, along with the red-tape of putting fences up sort of stopped the idea in it's tracks, though.

25 applicants selected, then cut down to 12. With all the press this thing is getting, this might be the toughest draw of the year!

I think it means the volunteer gets to keep one of the bison.

Great argument to bolster your position in the debate.... 🙄

You throw a speculative guess out there, then say “prove me wrong”. Too funny! 😭

Indeed, there is SO much out there that it's honestly often hard to figure-out what is real and not. I usually just eat my crow without seasoning. Just choke it down quick and chase it with water (Sort of like when I was a kid and my mom made me eat my helping of liver...🤮 😂).