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  1. Yup, I'll see you there. I'm definitely in the 'old men' club too (my daughter would argue for crude/rude also....)! Look for the skinny balding/gray dude in jeans and navy golf shirt.
  2. Tomorrow, the 17th. 6:30PM at Bass Pro Shops. https://azdeer.org/events-calendar/
  3. I'll be there tomorrow night. Maybe meet a few folks (and see a few old familiar faces from the ADA). I hope is that there will be good, constructive information sharing. I also hope that EVERYONE keeps in mind something I've heard on occasion here and there; "We have two ears and one mouth for a reason! " Listen!! My gut tells me that I have already made up my mind, but I'm going to try to keep my old biases in check. I want to listen to as much as I can hear, and then figure out where I will place my support. I sincerely hope for a positive outcome. S.
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    Conserve and Protect AZ SURVEY/

    I just completed the survey. Who is going to the ADA meeting tomorrow?? I think I'm going to try to make it.... S.
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    Youth turkey 6a

    Have seen some in the Stoneman Lake area. A little NW of the lake. Haven't been in there in a couple of years though, so who knows at this point. Might be worth a try though! Duh..... Just realized you said 'recent'. Well, good luck anyway!! Hope you guys get on to some!! S.
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    New TAG GRAB

  7. LOTS of opinions and information (or mis-information ) out there on this in a very short time! I spoke with Dave from the Arizona Deer Association this morning to get his take, and hence purportedly the ADA's take. At the end of that call I still had not changed my opinion regarding the auctioning off of tags, and I told him that. But, I definitely appreciated him sharing his thoughts and passion on the subject. For me, I am just vehemently opposed to the idea of auction tags. Partly because I see the chatter regarding the situation in Utah. Partly because of the bias I have based on some of the exact same folks pushing the same type of idea in 2012. Partly because the spirit of auctioning off the right to hunt to the highest bidder just doesn't seem to sit well with me. All of these reasons are simply my personal opinion, and mean a lot to me but likely no one else. I do however, agree that it could be of great value to have a funding source to help lobby/publicize/'educate' on issues that affect hunting. My vote would be to take some of the tags strictly for raffle purposes (NOT auction). For all I care, take 1% of the tags. Sell raffle tickets and have some legit org gather as much money as possible from that. Use the money according to the bylaws laid down, with the goal of protecting our right to hunt as we always have. An additional idea is what Flatlander mentioned; Have industry groups providing lobby/support money! Amazing the passion here. My advice is for ALL to get involved and make your voices heard, one way or the other. For or against, make your voice heard. NOT just here on this outstanding forum, but to the people and in the meetings that count! The meetings and discussions down the road that are sure to come as this thing works through the process. Good luck to us all!!! S.
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    New SFW Tag Grab Initiative

    Thanks much for taking the time to talk on the phone this morning, Dave! I appreciate the information and context. S.
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    New SFW Tag Grab Initiative

    Thanks, Dave! Running for a business dinner now, but will try to call you later tonight or at some point tomorrow. I really DO want to understand it fully! Stan
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    New SFW Tag Grab Initiative

    Nothing like the main village idiot getting it. Dave needed to spell it out for you. The problem is that what Dave apparently told bonecollector777 deviates from what Pete was recorded saying in the podcast. The summary of Dave's input above makes it sound like the only auction tags would be the ones that are currently allocated. ("..... removing one of the auction tags and turning it into a unit specific auction tag that only can be hunted during a particular season and that money would be able to be given to this new fund. He also said they would auction off 1 lower quality October coues and other lower quality tags and that money would be given to this new fund.") Pete made it very clear that there would be auction tags out of the new proposed allocation of tags. NOT all raffle. This is different from how Dave is trying to explain it. That being said, I fully concede that at this point much of the information in this thread is basically "he said" hear-say. Much of it 3rd or 4th person at this point. Another reason for folks to get actively involved and show-up at the meetings to get the low-down in person! S.
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    New SFW Tag Grab Initiative

    What he said! I've known Pete since the 1970s. He's probably done more for conservation in this state than 99.9% of the members here. He's one of the reasons that more than twice as many hunters get to chase desert sheep now than in the 1970s. Idiots? Ummm, only if we let a few people move forward with something that was fought and defeated soundly several years ago. Making demeaning statements about guys on this site who are passionate about this topic is an interesting tact. Good luck with that... As stated by bonecollector777, just because Pete has done LOTS for wildlife does not at all mean that we need to agree with him or the group he represents. Seems like that would be idiotic to me.
  12. That's good input. I appreciate Dave's perspective. That being said, I'm not sure if you listened to the podcast or not, but Pete ABSOLUTELY stated 'auction' tags. The auction tags were veiled in the raffle tags.... He said something like: "The 'great majority' would be raffle tags...". Don't know what the definition of 'great majority' is, as it is all relative to the overall population of tags. He also compared it to the 'Utah model', and if you have followed that stuff, there are many many people who are not at all happy about it. Constant feeling of cronyism and special interests....
  13. Ugh.... Just realized the 'Contact Me' link just kind of takes you to a form to fill-out. Good start, but I'll also try to get their e-mail addresses. S.
  14. Here is the G&F page with the list of commissioners. There is a "Contact Me" link for each one. S. https://www.azgfd.com/agency/commission/members/
  15. Yes, good idea. Also, IMO, the e-mails we want are the G&F Commissioners! According to the podcast, the commissioners are going to discuss this at their May commission meeting and their May commissioners retreat (whatever that is....). I'll try to find the e-mail addresses of the commissioners! S.
  16. Yup. This is directly from the azsfw.org site: "Out of our joint efforts, Conserve and Protect Arizona was formed, which is a 501©(4) organization whose mission is to protect our conservation heritage. Two of the key components they will concentrate on include educating the non-hunting public on the importance of scientific wildlife management at the AZ Game & Fish Department and securing a legislative remedy to ensure the AZ Game & Fish Department can use science to manage wildlife, and not be subjected to emotion based ballot box management. https://conserveandprotectaz.org/" Neither site lists the specific names of any of the board members and/or officers (At least if the names are listed, I cannot find them...). There is a list of 'Members, Affiliates, and Partners', but that is just a big list of basically most of the sportsman/hunting organizations in the state. This left a bad taste in my mouth several years ago. I was a member of the Arizona Deer Association. As a result of the board of ADA supporting AZSFW, the organization is listed as an 'Affiliate/Partner' of AZSFW. I did NOT support that, but just because the board of the ADA shared many common names, the ADA 'supports' AZSFW. It started to smell like cronyism, and really turned me off. If you do not agree with more public tags going to auction, then make your voice heard!!!! Do not remain silent! S.
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    Pack snacks

    Big bag of raw trail mix, often with M&M's mixed in. Maybe a couple of apples and those little oranges. Payday and jerky. LOTS of water. Then a HUGE hot meal back at camp before bed (usually mesquite grilled veggies and meat).
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    G&F new TAG printings

    Ummm.... Maybe a dumb question, but does that mean that tags are mailed? (Watching-out for a couple of cow tags for my daughter/son....) S.
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    G&F new TAG printings

    Too funny, man!!!! I thought I was the only one!!
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    Gila county pushing forest service to close forest

    Right there with you Dennis. Our property back the national forest and when these idiots think they need a camp fire when its 70 degrees its just a recipe for disaster. Im sure when this is brought in front or the administration and they deny it for economic reasons and then one erupts and takes out a community its ground for class action. Most of these citidiots just dont understand how dry it is and just how fast it can go up. I'm no lawyer, but I'm not sure how that would be grounds for a class action suit. Just because there is a group of folks impacted, does not automatically qualify it for class action. Seems like the action in that case should be against the perpetrator (if man caused), as opposed to the government agency that didn't close the national forest and protect homes close the forest. In this 'lawsuit and sue happy' society though, who knows.... For the record, if the fire danger is deemed high enough I think they should definitely close it! (They've done that before, right? I mean, I think there is precedence...) Turkey season, fishing season, whatever. S.
  21. I think I have a solution; Ignore lowball offers!
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    Big Thanks To CWT Members - Youth Euro Business Update

    So many things are cool and AWESOME about this!! Thanks for sharing! S.
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    One Caliber in Arizona

    I own two .7MM Rem Mags, a 30-06, .308, and a trusty old 30-30. I grew-up on the 30-30 and .7MM Mags as a kid (dad's guns). They are mine now that he is gone, and I still love those big ol' .7MM Mags!!! lol Of late though, I am leaning towards the 30-06 (which I bought used from a great guy on this site...). The ammo is SO much more affordable than the .7MM Mag rounds. I don't reload, so cheap, available ammo is the determining factor. I don't shoot long range, and out to 300 yards or so they are both good. So 30-06 for me.
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    solo archery bull

    Piece by piece! Gutless method rocks!!!
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