Coues247

Anyone have any experience on the best time to hunt Goulds in Mexico? Booking a hunt and have the option from middle of April-middle of May. Thanks

Card deadline is Monday June 17th! Tuesday's the day.

I'll say it again. 3a does not have any horses and therefore you couldn't see them with your eyes, because they aren't there. I'm assuming you think 3a is the part of 3c that is north of 260. 3a doesn't start until north of hwy 277.

There are 0 horses in 3a. Also, there's nowhere to get away from roads in 3c, they're everywhere. This is no offense to the bull you killed last year, but I think when most people think of good elk hunting they are thinking of bulls over 300". Plenty of units you can go can find an elk and kill it.

Where are you located?

Dang, I need to get some buddies like that.

Did the seller seem sketchy at all? Like he might be going to buy some crack with the $350 he got for dad's $1200 rifle kind of thing? That's an insane price. Good buy.

Shut tf up Kev. They're crooks. "It MaKEs SeNsE tO SCreW PeOplE OveR tO MaKe EXtrA MonEY" drrrrrrr

I agree with that. It's just much more prevalent on reservations.

Those reservations are one step above a third world country, with similar corrupt governments that do as they please. They are sovereign so there is no oversight but at the same time they are backed by the U.S. governments money. On top of that, they are some of the most greedy people on the planet that will screw people over to make a quick buck without thinking about the money they will lose in the future. They are lucky they have big money hunters that are willing to pay for those elk tags or they'd all have starved to death by now. The director, Tim Stevens, is a worthless piece of trash, that as you learned just runs things as he pleases and makes up rules as he goes. BUT they know there's enough people that are willing to play their game to get to hunt there so they don't really care.

People pay for guides to kill a 300 inch bull? Wtf

*most people that buy them can't afford them*

What size spotters are those? Model numbers?

5a is Coconino national forest. Call Flagstaff.

How bad do you want one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/285531264901?itmmeta=01HVYJBYNTFNFYTRQTXQXC4WR8&hash=item427afd5785:g:WhAAAOSwtBxlOREd&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8ERyMJbhDtvdaJS7Ld%2F2pwp2Ya9D6n2Ltnxp4ZqQ8AWGTGKgw81%2BGhI6YknwiI7euWqg45mEZ5ZKuRRPqXE0MJjNPb69VzYzCCBnfsoqMMtvc8Ks5p7pd4%2FKhQBaqjEEq9oCz%2BsiZFBJedUZqo0jKOw2GavIn3kCLnhvtQ%2FCqqTRQPuw1Ft42FFux86lXAPp58Ye6KNsgOiOsKBEsCrYgXgjgI8UNhzXvZQuFIoD%2BdWNuxFYrDF3iRhRdTo8QaXSp%2Br4%2Fu%2F9Mmfdu8c1thq4%2FmZtHpnu6RQ%2BOpVPaaLfQL8FV8xaavf54OCT9v1Tp6Cn1Q%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_rqr9LfYw

Since all of 4b is north of 260, better stick to north of 260 lol. Try the 210/122 road area.

That's why my post appropriately has the words may not in it. His odds of not ever drawing the tag are exponentially higher than him ever drawing the tag.

If you're going for 5b (the hardest hunt in the state to draw) you may not ever draw it if you only have 27 points.

I know it freaks the birds out thinking it's suddenly getting dark. That's about all I know though.

Sadly, several people I know are having the same issues. Multiple lions and deer of friends and cant get a response from them. I've heard of one guy that went by and got all his stuff a year ago and he said it was looking empty in the shop. Someone needs to head down there and see what's going on.

Cool?

Anyone know if they are having it this year? It's usually right about now but there is nothing on their website about it.

So you're just gonna ignore the fact that they posted the numbers of roughly how much they will lose off the sheep, elk, and deer and the fact that they will make MORE money off of every other animal and pull a random $1,000,000 guess of loss of revenue out of your as$? They explained that they can make it where the raffle tags can be sold out of state. There might be a small loss of revenue but it won't be significant. Better to make a little less money than let Jimmy John buy the best tags on the planet every year.

There were two auction and one raffle per species. Next year is two raffle and one auction and in 2026 all three are raffle.

The raffle revenue didn't drop "precipitously". It dropped, but not much. Most likely more due to the out of staters not being able to buy them. They discussed the ability to try and get it back to allowing all the states that can legally participate. That would help offset any drops in revenue. There also wasn't DEEP decreases in revenue from deer, elk, and sheep. Yes there was a drop but nothing that's gonna cause some severe problems. In the end, money isn't the only thing that's important. Chances to hunt an animal should be fair and available to everyone.