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    HUGE CONGRATS!!!!!! Great story and a Frickin' Fabulous Buck!!! You learned some great lessons and were rewarded well for your pain and suffering!! Congrats again!!!!!!

    Man el pepe you brought a tear to my eye. That is a story and a hunt of a life time. There needs to be more of that type of dicipline in hunting. Thanks

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    Looking at Tony's list it appears that the deer you were seeing were probably one of the many subspecies of whitetail deer. Likely one of the Venado deer subspecies from that list (Odocoileus virginianus cariacou : Venado Deer, French Guiana and North Brazil (Boddaert 1784) .). Here is a webpage I found that tells a bit about the 8 South American subspecies. It gives a weight of 50kg for a buck in Venezuela, which would be fairly consistent with the size of a coues deer.

    http://www.fao.org/docrep/T0750E/t0750e0n.htm

     

    The SCI record book had a few pictures and scores of South American whitetails. You can see them from this link.

    http://www.scifirstforhunters.org/members/....cfm?specID=L01

    The deer in the photos from that first link are the same type of deer we used to see. I never knew there were so many sub species of the white tail deer. All of your posts have been most helpful. Well I know now that they weren't couse but they still sure were some pretty deer. Thanks again everyone.

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    Were those deer sort of reddish colored? If so, probably brocket deer.

     

    ...continually taking nice whitetail that looked exactly like the couse we have here in Arizona.

    If they were "nice" deer that resembled Coues deer they aren't likely to be Brockets. Brockets have unbranched horns and a big one has horns about twice the length of your thumb. Although for Longshooter that would be a heck of a Coues :lol:. Not sure if there are Coues down that far or not.

    I take back that I didn't kill any deer down there. I shot what they called a Wivaserie. It was about the size of a cyote. It was a female so it didn't have antlers. They tell me that the males grow one to two inch spikes. Every one in camp had to make fun of me that I went and shot a baby deer :rolleyes:

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    Were those deer sort of reddish colored? If so, probably brocket deer.

     

    There are a BUNCH of deer subspecies as you go south in Mexico into Central America and then to South America. -TONY

    These deer had the normal brown summer coat that couse get. It just never got cold enough for them to need a thicker winter coat.

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    I lived and worked mining gold in Guyana South America for about three and a half years. I didn't personally kill any deer while I was down there. However the Brazilians that worked near us were contiually taking nice whitetail that looked exactly like the couse we have here in Arizona. I am just wondering if any one knows anything about the whitetail of South America, if they are couse or a subspecies and if they are a subspecies what type?

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    Jack, that is awesome! That is an amazing collection of huge coues bucks! Are those just the smaller ones that you didn't feel like mounting? :blink: :P I'm gonna pretend like those all came out of the same area too.........get's me all excited for the upcoming Dec. hunt! ;) JIM>

     

    Hey thanks, I just a personal thing but unless they are 100" I don't mount them. Pretend all you want but they are from a couple diffrent units... ;) good luck in december!!

    Great lookin deer!! I'm a new comer to the art of huntin couse. I drew white tail tage on my second choice and was a little bummed. Then one of my co-workers brought in his brothers europeon white tail mounts and I thought man that's cool. I ended up getting a nice 80" buck on opening day. As a matter of fact it is the only white tail buck that i've ever seen. It's at the taxadermist getting a europeon mount right now. Thanks for the ideas. I'm pretty much addicted now. next year that hunt will be my first choice!

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