SunDevil

no - maybe someone can explain the parallax adjustment (Doug - aka RR - aka Mr Professor). the important thing to note is when you zoom your scope out to use the BDC's - you can not adjust the magnification - in essence - when you are using the BDC's you are using a fixed power scope that always needs to be set at the predetermined magnification power. this is one of the drawbacks to the BDC's is that if you are shooting at twilight and need to reduce the magnification in order to gather more light than you can not use the BDC's

I have a nikon monarch BDC - I put it on a new gun and got everything all figured out with it, my ammo and my gun. before my last hunt I put 3 shots at 400 yards in a 2.5" group. you just have to figure out for your gun and ammo if 200/300/400/500 is top, middle or bottom of circle. it gives you 2 more options for zeroing your gun at each yardage than just the dots. if you are not going to do turrets but want something more than just a regular duplex scope it is probably the best way to go.

so there are really two different scenarios and for both of these, people that get offended easily need to either 1) get thicker skin, 2) ignore people they find offensive, 3) respect other people's opinions or 4) and possibly unfortunately, find somewhere else to spend their time. scenario 1) say I am a snake lover (which I am not but lets say I do). if there is a thread about how people hate snakes and want to kill them all then I need to either get thicker skin, respect their opinions, ignore the thread or go elsewhere. scenario 2) I am still a snake lover and I post a bunch of pictures of snakes and start talking about how much I love them. knowing some of the members on here, I might get called a few things (all in good nature) about being a snake lover and people will probably express their opinion about how they would like all snakes to be dead. once again, I need to understand they are not attacking me personally but rather have a difference of opinion on this topic and I need to either get thicker skin, ignore them and respect their opinions or go elsewhere. I know there have been people who have left this site because of each of these types of scenarios. yes it is unfortunate but people are all different and really, to each their own, that is the beauty of the country we live in.

here we go.

best bet is to just hit the pawn shops. you should be able to pick up a Mossberg 500 pretty cheap ($150). then just wack a couple inches off the butt stock. throw on a recoil pad and you will be good to go. I would recommend a 20 gauge as ammo for a 16 gauge is scarce and expensive.

my dad keeps a 38 super around loaded with bird shot to use on the snakes around his house. what did you do with the skin?

you can also get into the SW corner of the Wetstones off from highway 82. that road actually heads north along pretty much the whole west side of the mtns. also, (at least the last time I was there) you can walk in to the Haystack area from the JSix ranch area (exit 297 on I-10). also, you can camp at Kartchners and hike back in.

the hospitals are always looking for nurses

I think he lurks. For those of you that do not know him, everything that has been said about him is dead on. he is a good guy. as matthew45 pointed out, after he left the site he was respectful in his personal words about all. it is our loss. unfortunately for future newbie, escouters, they will miss out on his knowledge of and willingness to share info on his 43B coues honeyholes.

nope - I do not have permission from the hunter to post pics of the goat he took. we renamed Billy though. his new name is Wimpy. we observed another much smaller buck come into his herd, chase him off and steal his 4 does.

so the community locals will be pleased to know that Billy made it through the hunting season.

we will be in 36C and will be camping.

I do not know but I saw thousands of them this weekend. every top section of fence had one with it's web in it. some were yellow with red legs and some were yellow with black legs. on one yucca I counted 8, each with webs. they do not appear to hide, hoping more I think to have the wind blow an insect into their snare. they are pretty fast little guys.

as always - nice trophy - nice pics - nice story - nice flowers - nice sunset - nice fire ??? - nice dog - nice guy - congrats Doug!!!

also came across a few of these.

yep - only had 1 day to hunt. ended up getting another buck at 1:25 yesterday afternoon.

Last friday evening I saw a mule deer doe with triplets and was wondering what the odds of this were? I figured it is something I probably will never see again in my lifetime. I went and checked the book (Deer of the SW) but could not find any stats on the frequency of multiple births (twins or triplets). Has anyone else ever seen triplet fawns before? Does anyone know what the odds of triplet fawns being born are? I am guessing < 1% but would like to know for sure. Thanks. Chris.

the one on the left in the last picture looks like a coues rack to me

well I guess if you were really drunk you might get that bull confused with a really big sheep

Q - obviously there are other places would prefer to hunt or they would have applied for these hunts. I do not recall ever making mention of there being insufficient game in these units to support increased hunts and tags. Since you bring it up though, an important part of your last statement: "making it possible for more individuals to hunt without increasing significantly the number of animals killed, a number that the professional wildlife biologists we've hired have deemed can safely be removed from that area's population" I question the ability to accurately determine 'safely' in the statement you made above. My biggest doubt is in the ability to accurately determine harvest numbers from voluntary report surveys. after that, to base deer population stats on 1 wildlife manager being in the field in the end of jan for a couple of days seems questionable to me. that is what they do so that is what they are going to base all of their info on. seems to me if there is not a lot of finger crossing and hoping there should be. they added 5 hunters to 36C this fall who normally would not have hunted. hopefully our success will be 100% and hopefully the other 69 leftover hunters are not as successful as we are otherwise that 'safe' number will have been thrown out the window.

no to the first part but probably yes to the second part. and I say this know that if they had not increased opportunity the way they did this year I probably would not have obtained a leftover tag. it is kind of like the law of diminishing return - you might pay $4 for a piece of cake but probably on $2 for a second piece and by the time you are offered a 4th piece you probably would not buy it at all (not even for a penny). the same is true for hunting opportunity in some units. clearly based on the number of leftover tags in the 2007 draw year - there was plenty of 'opportunity' in many of the units (30A, 30B, 35A, 36A, etc). my opinion is that with there being enough 'opportunity' already for these units (based on all the leftover tags in 2007) more 'opportunity' was not warranted and the dept probably should have looked a little closer to adding an additional hunt and additional tags in the units.

well Jim - 3,392 (to be exact) could have gone hunting if they had played the odds. I am sure there are probably thousands more (several thousand non-residents and several thousand residents) who only put in for the Kiabab and are not interested in any other 'opportunity'. I would have thought that the G&F would have looked at which units had leftover tags last year and would have realized that there is already enough 'opportunity' in these units. I am talking about 30A, 30B, 35A, 36A, 36B. These units had a lot of left over tags last year and no surprise - lots of left over tags again this year. trust me - I love unit 33. a lot of discussion was had regarding which hunts to put in for. we decided that drawing a 33 dec tag with now only 40 tags would be almost like drawing a sheep tag. additionally, the chances of taking a really big deer would be more challenging than in previous years because 2 more hunts were added and the dec hunt would now be the 6th rifle hunt of the year in this unit. I am very pleased to have kept my bonus points, got another one and obtained a unit 36C left over tag. We would have preferred to put 33 Oct in as our second choice (behind a Dec hunt) but knew that the way the draw works and the bonus points we have, we would have obtained the 33 Oct tag through the 20% bonus point allocation without the draw even getting to our 1st choice Dec hunt application (something wrong with the draw in these situations in my opinion). Anyway, I am sure the Dept sold all their left over tags and were pleased to get the $169K (minimum - just considering resident tag rates). I guess on a positive note, it will probably allow 1.5 FTEs the 'opportunity' to stay employed.

send me an email or a pm if anyone has this tag and is interested in knowing where a couple big mule deer bucks are located.

Jim - first of all let me say thank you for providing the info on the mule deer triplet fawns. I saw them again last Sunday afternoon. I somewhat disagree with this statement in your article: "In the 2007 fall draw, 72,651 people applied for a deer tag and only 42,585 people received one. So 30,066 (41 percent) of people who wanted to hunt deer had to stay home and find something else to do with their families." Some of those 30K people could have done a little research on draw stats and applied for units with 100% odds. more than likely, they had a specific unit they wanted to hunt and that is the only unit they applied for. their thinking was I only want to hunt the unit I have hunted before and am familiar with. they made a conscious choice before they applied to put in for a hunt they might not draw vs put in for a 100% draw hunt and go hunting for the sake of going hunting. additionally, many of those 30K applicants were probably non-residents who only applied for the strip. they made the choice to apply for a hunt with only 2% draw odds. more than likely they apply in other states and are not "staying at home to find something else to do with their families." I do believe the G&F is tasked with a difficult situation. I do not believe a dec hunt that is now - one) the 4th, 5th or even 6th hunt within a particular unit or - two) has a nov hunt that ends 7 days before the dec opener can be considered a 'quality hunt'. I did not apply for Dec 33 this year because it was going to be the 6th rifle hunt in this unit (2 jr hunts and 3 general hunts). this does not count the archery hunt or the javelina hunts. previously the nov hunt would end the weekend before turkey day and allow 3 weeks before the dec opener. now the 2nd nov hunt ends on dec 5 which is only 7 days before the dec opener. this does not equate to quality for me. there were WT tags leftover in 36C this year. if this is an alternative unit with quality being key, why add another 4th hunt when original demand is not greater than the original 3 hunts and allow for 3 weeks before the dec opener instead of just 1. clearly the dept is managing to quantity with quality being thrown under the bus. yes there are the token 'alternative units' but again, I would question a 4th WT hunt with the dec opener being 7 days after the previous hunt closing as a serious consideration being taken for quality. additionally, why add more tags and hunts to units that historically have tags leftover? this goes back to my first point. if going hunting is someone's priority than they should put in for Oct 30B as their 5th choice. they are guaranteed a tag. if not, than they are not that serious about going hunting in the first place. opportunity previously existed for this hunter and he choose not to take advantage of it. if there are historically tags leftover for so many units (30A, 30B, 36A, 36B, etc) this indicates to me plenty of opportunity in these units and an additional hunt and additional tags are not warranted. adding an additional hunt and additional tags to these units just further makes my point of managing to quantity, quantity and more quantity at the additional cost of quality.

well I went out with blackdog again this last weekend for his archery goat hunt in unit 32. nothin hit the ground but a good weekend was had by the two of us. weather was a lot cooler this last weekend than the opener. we went back Sat am to the spot we saw a big 2X2 mule deer last weekend. I immediately found one of the smaller bucks he was running with. after a few minutes I located the big 2X2 and then I found a bigger 4X4 that was running with it. blackdog went off in pursuit and was busted at about 50 yards without getting to fling any carbon. they were down in the bottom of a draw with a lot of thick mesquites. sure was a pretty buck. I almost had an unpleasant experience with a rattler when I was sneaking into a spot to get a closer and better visual on the bucks. man I hate snakes. leapin' lizards - does anyone know what kind this one is? here is one of the better goats blackdog was chasing around. Sunday evening was filled with a lot of rain which provided for an excellent sunset. if it was not a 10 it was at least a 9. there are 10 archery antelope tags in this unit. we met a guy who ended up being successful on this tough hunt. he finally harvested on the evening of his 9th straight day of hunting. he finally conected on his 3rd shot of the hunt.