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    brothers very first bow kill

    fixed 3 blade muzzy, i think he shoots. slight quarting towards him, a tiny bit high, went in about 4" behind the front shoulder and came out the oposite flank area. but yea complete pass through. oh by the way it is 23" inside and 25" outside spread
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    Velvet Care????

    You first need to take very good care of it from the time the deer hits the ground, handle it as very little as possible, and then freeze and get it to your taxidermist, decide right away if you want it stripped and fake put on or not..... if not and you want to try and do it your self BEFORE you can inject formaldehyde (which is very hard to get unless you work at a funeral home) or anythig else you first have to get the blood out of it, it is a living organism, if the tips are still really round and soft you can pock them with a syringe ALL over, and all up and down the antler, but especially the tip, then you take your syringe with water and start down at the base and squirt the water under the skin, this will force the blood out the "pin holes" you made at the tips, this will take quite a while untill ALL blood from every square inch has been forced out, you have to go all the way around and keep forcing more and more until every point, every inch has been covered, and nothing put clear liquid comes out the tips, if any stays it will rot. then mix a strong salt water solution and do it again, (some start with the salt water solution to begin with) and once again go over the intire antler gettign that salt water under everypart, once again this takes some time ( for the more adventureous you can drill a hole from the underneath side up through the center of the antler for a little ways and then take your garden hose with an attachment and force the water from the underneath side up through the pours, and the blood with come out quicker, but it takes some getting used to to drill it out right and everything) then after you have doen that there are several comercial solution you can either soak them in or once again inject under the velvet, but the most important part is to get the blood out first, you cant replace it with a "preservative" untill it is gone, once it's gone then you begin to "tan" the velvet for lack of a better word, but esentially that is what you are doing, tanning it from the inside out...... they are a pain, but look pretty when finished...... you can also send them off to have them freeze dried, or leave them in your freezer for years and it will esentially do the same thing, or have them stripped and fake flockign put on.... good luck to ya tommy
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    270 WSM reloading suggestions

    i also love the gun! i have 3, and my brother has 1, have shot coues deer, elk, and antelope with it. him and i went to wyoming last year goat hunting and wanted to have a contest on shooting one the farthest, so we did lots of practicing and so forth and went out, and he shot a buck at 350, so i shot one at 445, so then he shot his doe at 643, knocked it on its butt...... then i shot my doe with my muzzle loader at 245, so he won the long range contest, but they are great guns and mine shoots really tight as well, i have the winchester model 70's..... good luck with it and have fun! tommy
  4. My dad and i were talking last night, about what kind of interest there might be with hunters in offering a "game retrieval" service..... we raise and break a lot of horses and would kind of like for some of them to earn there feed if you shot an elk way off in a remote area somewhere, we could go in and pack it out, for example. We would not be interested in trialing or helping to find, but mearly you take us to your downed/gutted/quartered animal and we load it up and haul it back to the road/truck..... what do yawl think? would anyone be interested in anything like this. drop me some thoughts, would be interested both good and/or bad on such a thing. thanks tommy
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    game retrieval w/ horses any interest?

    my info is Tommy Hancock home phone is 928-536-9159 cell is 928-243-8652 my e-mail is tomandjeanette@yahoo.com if i can help ya let me know and we can work something out. i've always got a trailer full of horses, 6-8 at anyone time on the place, and 3-4 that i have packed on before and the others i can ride in to lead those out with, if you have a gps that would be good to as i can insert the cords and we can ride right back to him with out spending time looking for him (the elk that is)
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    game retrieval w/ horses any interest?

    yea i know everone is worried about someone finding there honey holes, no way around that, but really how often is someone else going to draw a tag in your area and go to your spot.... anyway i dont have a clue how to charge for this yet, of course it would depend on how far, how long it took and all of that kind of stuff. snapshot, drop me a line if your enterested, and when your hunt is, i'm about 60 miles form your area depending on where exactly you hunt, i have ridden 27 and the blue LOTS, so could give ya a hand, hauling him out for ya..... i'm more located to do unit's like 3a/3c, the 4s, 1, 27 ect..... those are the closest to me anyway...... would just take longer to get to some of the others... would also be iterested on price/cost ideas
  7. there is a bird hunting place not to far off, and after a good day of hunting i had some guys stop by to get there roosters done, thought you might like to see the color difference on one of these birds.
  8. OK here is the senerio, i've put in for about 20+ years and this is my first arizona antelope tag (i've shot 3 in wyoming, one little one and 2 - 15ish around 78-80" bucks) i've put in lots of scouting alread and found a couple of good goats, one pictured below (if i can get it upload) one is really tall! i'm guessing 17+ but when i see him he is quite a was off and doesnt stick around ( an old smart sucker) and i can find him once ever couple of weeks. the second goat (the one pictured below) is a nice goat by anybodies standards. nice cutters, nice mass, good length, he is a little shy on mass above the cutters, BUT i can find him almost every singe time i go out..... so what would you do..... would you try to find the bigger goat for several days HOPEING this goat didnt bight the dust while you were doing it, or would you shoot this one right off, so no one else finds him. 1 - shoot first or wait? 2- how big do you think this goat is? heck of a problem i have huh :)
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    antelope problem, any advice? :)

    so how big is this goat? is he a "wait for 20 year shooter" ?
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    270 WTB

    if you dont get one baught i'de let ya borrow my 270 WSM, shoots great, i let a 10 year old kid borrow it 2 years ago and he put the hammer down on a nice cow with it. BUt you're welcome to come get it and let her shoot it awhile and then bring it back after she kills her cow. I'm not interested in saleing it, but you could sure come borrow it let me know tommyy
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    They are UP online!!!

    BP for sheep BP for turkey 33 coues
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    Coatimundie

    I've ran into 4 different bunches of them, and 2 seperate loner's ( one in new mexico lion hunting) , the loner was gone in seconds, the other 3 bunches just kind of ran off. ( i shot one out of each bunch, and i mounted myself one, they are pretty cool) the one loner we ran into in new mexico we were trailing a lion with our dogs, and a coati ran right over the track, and it was a heck of a fight, it finally went up a tree. but yea the are mean
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    Know of any good woodworkers in the Tucson area?

    i do lots of woodworking, but i'm up in Taylor, about 3 1/2 hours or so north of ya, if you cant find anyone else let me know and we can work something out. thanks tommy
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    Albino cow

    Very neat color phase but i dont think it is true albino, if you would of had a close up picture it would help, but to be true albino it has to have PINK nose and eyes, and i would guess that, that cow does not have these, just a different color phase, kind of like a "smoke" phase of turkey, like the one pictures hear that i mounted for a customer, Not albino, just a differnt color phase.... regardless very neat color. good hunting tommy
  15. here is a few of the furs i got from this calling season, some i've already sold or mounted, this is what i have left to sale, i think there are 17 dogs and 10 cats left, i'de love to see what yawl took this calling season. happy hunting tommy
  16. heres a couple of pictures from this year and last
  17. Well Thursday evening found me "scouting" my favorite turkey road in unit 27 ( yea shane you know the one, were i called in that double for your daughter 2 years ago) Anyway about 300 yards from were i called in those birds i had a double answer me again about 30 minutes before dark. So i thought this is cool right were i know were they like to be and were i always find them, so i left them and went down the road a little farther and had another bird answer way off down in a canyon, and he was hott, he was double gobbling at me right at dark, he had to of been in his tree already and he was fired up.... the only problem is that there was a truck parked about 3/4 a mile away and i didnt know if they had walked down that canyon and were putting the bird to bed, because i was way up on top above him.... so what to do a single fired up bird with a possible hunter, or 2 not so fired up birds with no-one around...... well the next morning we decided to go ahead and leave the single fired up bird to the other guys ( if they were in fact on him) and we went over toward our other 2 birds, we got about 2 miles from them ( still early and dark) and i told my buddy to pull over there is a little marshy wet spot in a little clearing that birds like to hang out in the day and are always roosted close by ( although i couldnt get one to gobble there the night before.) so he pulls off and i step out and let things quite down a little and then i make a couple of soft tree yelps and i have 2 birds HAMMER back at me about 250 yards away. so i tell my buddy we are going after these 2 birds and if it doesnt pan out then we can always go up the road and try to get on teh other to a little later. so i grab my deco and my camera, and all my calls and he grabs the gun and off we go in the dark. we made it to about 75 yards and i told him that was close enough we needed to set up, so we got all set up ( with both birds sounding off ever little bit) and let the sky turn from dark to grey, to light. when i felt it was time i started doing some soft treee yelps with my mouth call, then a few minutes latter my box, and then my slate. ( i always like to sound like there is several differnt hens there, just something i like to do, i also like to see what call the particular gobbler i am working likes, and yes some seem to like the box, others the slate ect...) anyay these 2 gobblers would hammer just about everything i would throw at them, we played tag for about 20 minutes, then i heard them fly out, the problem was they pitched AWAY from from us and were now 125 yards away, i was really afraid they would keep on going away from us, i didnt know if they had hens that would lead them away. so i poured it to them, and i got them REALLY fired up with some purrs and high pitched calling, after about 10 minutes of staying on teh back side of the hill they finally couldnt take it any longer and pretty soon the gobbles got louder and lounder. and then FINALLY i saw a white head and whtiet ail feather come over the rise 60 yards away, i called softly and they gobbled, and gobbled, and closed the distance, at about 40 yards they kind of hung up, they were strutting and putting on a show but were kind of hung in that one spot for about 5 minutes or so, i dont think they had seen my deco yet, and i think eventually they would of, they were strutting and careing on, but my buddy had about all he could stand and when they fianlly seprated enough he let the biggest on have it, 37 yards, one shot, bird down. ( he likes my 3 1/2 magnum gun now ) 10 1/2 beard very nice mature gobbler, 5:28 a.m. opening morning and we were done.... well now what to do, so we went and cleaned the bird, got the fishing poles and headed over to big lake. the wind had begun to pick up and the lake was choppy and COLD, but the fish were biting and in about an hour and half we had are limit of 12 fish. SO a great opening day once again!
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    3A&C archery Bull and 4B Rifle Antelope

    mark, i sent a note tommy
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    FURS, dogs and cats

    i already sold or mounted the badgers and fox's
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    Draw results are up!

    it took 18 years of bonus points to finally draw my first ever az rifle goat no elk , again
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    They are up!!

    it took 18 bonus points to finally draw my first az goat tag, 2a rifle, second choice! no elk, again
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    gobbling turkeys

    yes they will be gobbling in late april and probably a month before that, but for sure by then. park anywere in the mountains just before sunrise and get out and listen for a few minutes and you will hear a turkey gobble. and if by chance you done, move a half mile and listen again, they are very vocal just before sunrise and just before fly down time.... the only time you would'nt hear them gobble is if the wind is 50 miles and hour (and that happens offten during turkey season) and then it is not becasue they arent gobbling its becasue you just cant hear over the wind.
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    "smoke phase turkey"

    Here is a smoke phase hen turkey, i just finished up for a client, taken here in arizoan on the fall hunt, thought yawl might like to see this rare color phase, it has some awsome colors of blue/grey, the pictures dont do it justice. hope you enjoy tommy
  24. i got another badger this evening just at dark, and whats cool is he has one white foot. hope you enjoy tommy
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    sons second fox

    well my son thinks he is pretty cool, he took another one the other evning when we checked. i have 40 traps out and have been at it for 3 months and have caught 3 fox's and he has 2 traps out for 2 weeks and has 2 fox's (of course i gave him the hot spot) but it has been a good time taking him out. hope you enjoy tommy
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