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The guidelines are based on 15-25% of the class 3 and 4 rams. At some point it changed from 15-20%. Caught me when I wasn't paying attention so not sure when the change occurred.

Thanks for your reply! That gives me some reassurance, although there is no doubt that I would still much prefer a first hunt. I guess now I just need to narrow down a couple units. I think I have that already though.

Things have changed amigo! You need at least 3 to draw now I believe. Might be even worse this year with the further reduction. That being said this is a really cool hunt. No gimme that's for sure. I get to know the area more each year but still haven't got a buck up there yet. I should have last year though, missed a gimme. Didn't see that twig darn it!

Smith2260, If you don't mind me asking how many days did it take for you to locate and kill a ram on your hunt and what hunt area did you draw? Did you hire a guide? How did you know for sure your 1 and 2 were both killed before your hunt? Thanks, Nick

There are approximately 1/10th the Rocky tags as there are desert tags available in the drawing.

First off Congratulations on your tag! What a nice surprise. If you guys want to get technical, it's an American Pronghorn, not an antelope, or analope, or any of that. True antelope live in Africa. They have horns, similar to a goat or cow. A pronghorn is alone in it's family and genus, not represented by any other animal on the planet. It is unique due to the sheath over a bone core that is shed every year. Deer shed entire antlers, pronghorn shed only a sheath, true horned animals like antelope do not shed anything from it's head.

I saw some on the Havasu National Wildlife Refuge near Needles, CA too. There have also been reports over the years at Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge in Southern AZ. I think true pigs have a tough time in AZ due to the lack of water in most areas.

A longbow string is usually 3 inches shorter than its AMO length if measured by that standard.

Floorless tents for wood burning stoves is a much safer plan.

2013 there was a guy advertising on Craigslist as the season got closer. I rented his tent and stove for a week for $100 I think. This convinced my wife that we needed a wall tent and wood stove. Best Ben Franklin I ever spent, no doubt. You might keep trying this. Not a bad idea, might get someone to bite.

Well, you could start with the other 6B Archery Elk thread that someone started already this year. Likewise I would look at the Game and Fish Website, Hunting, Where to Hunt for general pointers and then maybe come back and ask some more specific questions that might convince people that you have actually put a little effort into this.

I assumed they would have been done calling by now too! Wow, lots of jacked up cards but with internet fraud and whatnot these days I get it.

If I was going to go and buy a new bow I would go with the one that Fred Bear used and that is the Bear Custom Kodiak Takedown. The design came out almost 50 years ago and these bows still shoot as well or better than other recurves with "modern" designs and materials. Those fellas were on top of their game back in the Grayling days.

All the efforts to get the flock where it is and simply just give tags away because of their mistake, not good. Not exactly. From what I heard and saw at the Commission meeting when this issue was brought up, the Department supposedly offered people who weren't entered a refund and return of their bonus points. The ones that did not accept the offer could petition the Commission for relief. Those that did were given tags by the Commission. Keep in mind that ultimately, 5 people who get appointed by the Governor make these decisions, not someone within the Department. The Department makes recommendations (and the mistakes). The Commission gets the final say. I also should point out that the Commission meetings are Public Meetings. If you were aware that this was an issue and had serious feelings about it, which you clearly do, you should have been there to voice your opinion when the Commission made this decision. Doing it now honestly is educational, but beyond that a waste of energy. All that aside, I totally agree with your points and I would probably feel exactly the same way!

I killed a big 2x3 that was 25 1/2 inches wide so your guess on the spread is probably conservative at 23. Great find!

Big respect for that wildlife officer. Earned his money on that one, and then some! That's the kind of guy you want backing you up if the shtf!

I liked that guy for his strong opinions, even when they differed with mine, which was rare. Nonetheless if you can dish it out and not take it when its served back to you, you probably need to go.

Remember the screw up where some people didn't get entered in the draw? Game and Fish determined that issuing tags to the applicants that did not get included in the draw would have no biological impact and did just that.

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They will take care of it, but that still sucks. That being said, I've never heard of any failure whatsover on the carbon/wood composite stays on a Kifaru.

Hence the name!!! Way cool man, great pics!

Nice to see everyone agree about Duwane! He is a super nice guy and a heck of an outdoorsman.

I'd be happy to throw some guesses your way! Congratulations on your tag! Pronghorn hunts in Arizona have been some of my absolute funnest hunts. Good Luck!

The draw generates random numbers. The ones with the lowest random numbers get drawn. If they can't fill the tag they go to the lowest number next on the list that applied for that hunt. Not that complicated with a decent database and query functions.

Sounds like they need a "Friday Night" butt whipping!