I want to thank all of the guys that replied, called me, sent PM's and invited me to hunt with them. I don't know everyones usernames but Scott, Sean, John, and Justin were all happy to help a newbie. I ended up off the 165 near Melendrez Pass and tagged my first deer. I had hunted from opening day and by Monday afternoon has seen 20+ does, a coyote, and a big bear. Not a single buck. I hung out with Scott and guys from his camp and their success (3 deer hanging by Sunday morning) kept me going. I knew they were out there. Monday evening just before dark I shot a spike close to where Scott got his. Unfortunately he would not clear some trees and I had to take a head shot. Messed him up too much for pictures. Getting him out was interesting by myself but I was happy to put the work in. Thanks again for the quality advice and help. I think I am hooked on these little deer.