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The draw has been completed. The only issue is with charging cards

@codyhuntsaz I’m normally with you that the draw is done in a matter of minutes, but talking with several outfitters they are not getting the calls for sheep, strip or kaibab hunts that is anywhere near normal. Along with that the percentage of people claiming not to draw the “easier” tags is far beyond anything we have ever seen or heard of historically. If there is no issue I would be shocked

Wrong year

I’m not Dave and as far as I know the insufficient fund tags typically get put back into the draw and are issued to the next lowest number applicant. Those are normally the charges people see approximately 3-4 days after the initial draw

Where is that information? I like to think I stay up on what’s happening and that is the first I’ve ever heard of that

The pass started at 3 last year for the youth hunt

I could believe that over time but when the majority of those hunts were 95% odds last year it seems highly unlikely all these folks wouldn’t be drawn. I know close to 20 people who haven’t been hit for October or early November coues tags with 2 points. Also know a non resident with 9 points who hasn’t been hit for an easier to draw December tag

Pretty much all big box stores and a good amount of smaller shops have good inventory already from what I’ve seen.

Picked up a Christensen Ridgeline FFT a few months ago. Shooting factory ammo (Hornaday Match 180 ELD-M) and have been very pleased with it. Through the chrono I’m getting 2860 fps and have been getting 1/2 MOA 5 shot groups at 100 and 200. Have only shot at rocks at longer distances so far but hitting what I’m aiming at out to 700.

Drew my second Gould’s tag this year with 24 points. Donated my first one back in 2011 to OE4A. Went into the hunt with high expectations and they were definitely met. Thanks to cramerhunts and my buddy Brandon for all the insight. Also. Big thanks to Ryan and Jesse for coming down on the hunt. Bird had a 10.25” beard and no spurs.

My buddy Ryan put a short video together from my hunt. The fact he got this from an afternoon and a short morning is incredible IMG_2980.MOV

Congratulations. Great bird

Thanks for all the congratulations guys Big Tub that would be me and the gray hair is just some of my wisdom showing 😉

I’ll be down next weekend also. Will be looking this weekend a little bit

So if there are 2 tags for a hunt and both tags go in the bonus pass what are the odds of drawing in the random draw? I understand the 80/20 split but when you have 25% or more of the “max pool” applicants in for 1 hunt they will never let that hunt go to someone outside of the max pool.

There hasn’t been a 22 tag drawn outside of max point pool for over 10 years, so the odds are 0%

That’s statistically impossible. These tags are are approximately 0.05%

But everybody wants opportunity over quality 🤦🏻‍♂️

Proposed regulate out. Actual regulations should be released in the next 2-3 weeks

Majority of the mature bulls will drop by mid March

A tag 🤷🏻‍♂️ All kidding aside it seems a lot of folks apply for elk and once they hit that 6-7 point range the decision has to be made to either go for a “lower tier” archery tag, a limited opportunity tag or a late rifle tag.

Maybe the hunter doesn’t want the publicity? I know of several trophy hunters who never post anything and nobody would no about any of there trophy’s.

Only 4 residents out of 33 resident applicants drew 23 late rifle last year with 10 points. 3 of 26 with 11. The pass started at 12 last year and the year before.

This was not unexpected. This has been known information for close to 9 months.

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