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They were all over the place last year! Send a p.m. if you would like some spots to try. I tagged out in the Spring otherwise I would be up there! Good Luck!
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Next time when G&F sends out a survey asking for Quality or Opportunity, lets make sure we all put down QUALITY. There's a ton of hunts in the regulations that provide plenty of opportunity for everybody!
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Congrats Casey on an Awesome Bull!
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Wow Awesome Buck Nick! Congrats!
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Nice buck Mike, how far was your shot?
Thanks guys, he was at 22 yards. He tore his velvet up pretty good on the ground, so I'm thinking about going with the fake velvet on a plaque.
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Took this tall 3 point from a treestand on the second weekend of the hunt. The first few days I saw four smaller bucks and some doe. Overall had a great time on the Kaibab!
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Both those bucks are Huge......Especially the top buck!
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Thanks for all the great info, I'll definitely check out the areas mentioned for deer!
I talked to Tim Carleson from AzG&F. He said the Mule deer populationi is right at 10,000 on the Kaibab. Elk pop is 20 and no White Tail.
The Kaibab deer heard should be healthy with 10,000 animals. In the past the Kaibab deer population fluxuated between 4,000 animals in 1906, to an estimated 100,000 in 1924.
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Its my favorite hunt. I have hunted it for the past three years, and its been phenomenal every year. Find places on top that no longer have passable roads going through it, hike in, and have fun. I've only seen a couple other guys in three years in my hiking area, and none of them were all the way into the sweet spots of the hunting areas. There are still alot of road hunters like there used to be, but I like that, because it pushes all the bucks to my honey holes even more:) I have an elk hunt this year, so I let you have my tag this year
Last year it was the rain forest hunt, raining every day it seemed like for large parts of the day, but don't let that keep you in camp, its only rain(until it hails, that hurts a little bit.) There is no better time to stalk a deer than in the rain!! The deer literally did not appear to be bothered that it was raining, fed right through it.Good info! I really enjoy stalking deer just after a good rain, it also seems to get the deer out feeding earlier in the evening. This year I would really like to harvest a buck by spot and stalk, but if it dries up sitting a tank might become an option. I've had a few trail cams up there for a couple months, hopefully something shows on them when I check next week.
I scouted it over the July 4th weekend......feed looked okay, probably much greener now with a months rainfall. Saw a few good bucks and quite a few medium sized bucks (135-150" type).....two mega bucks.
Glad to hear you found some bucks while scouting! Did you draw the tag this year, or just up scouting?
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The Archery Kaibab deer hunt is almost here and I'm looking forward to getting up there again! I've been scouting this year, and have seen quite a few deer and some decent bucks. I used to hunt the archery Kaibab hunt every year when it was an over the counter tag and we had great hunts...most years we saw plenty of deer and always had a buck located to hunt. Being that quite a few deer were seen while having unlimited tags in the field, has there been a noticeable difference in finding deer since 800 tags were issued? I'm hoping to hear that the hunt has improved and that more deer will likely be seen. Who else drew the archery tag this year? Has anybody hunted this unit since it went to a draw? Also has anybody noticed any difference in the quality and pressure of the hunt? If you have past pictures of bucks from the archery or rifle hunts, I'm sure that everybody would enjoy seeing them. Good luck to everybody who drew the tag this year, it should be a fun hunt!
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I saw a heard hanging right by the park gate on the 12A side mid June.
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I would pick unit 23, it's a great unit! Good luck!
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I'll let this bed go for $200. This is a steal, being it's only been slept on one time. You can pick it up at my house in North Phoenix, or I can deliver to the Phoenix area if needed. This bed is as close to Brand New as you can get, and is a lot better than buying it online for $700. This is a Queen Mattress. Please text, or call 928-699-4160 if interested.
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Great Buck!!
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TTT, make any offer I might take it!
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I'm selling a new Queen Bed in a Box Mattress. This is a Pac Bed Original Gel 9" thick Memory Foam Mattress. I slept on it one night and it is not the bed for me. If you're comfortable with a bed that is a bit firmer than this bed is perfect.I bought it for $700, I will sell for $500 or best offer. First decent offer takes it. Pick up only, I will not be able to ship the bed because I can't get it back in the box. I live in North Phoenix, if interested please let me know. Thanks
You can check this bed out on bed in a box online. The bed has really good ratings so it might be the bed for you!
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Two Deer tags, most likely archery in the Kaibab!
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Either an app service, or someone donating money to G&F.
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Expansion of the area where Mexican wolves can disperse and establish territories. Wyoming allowed the wolf to expand to limited areas outside Yellowstone National Park. Everywhere else was considered to be the predator zone and wolves are treated like coyotes, year round hunting with no bag limit. Arizona should adopt this stance. Any wolf that leaves the Apache Sitgreaves is considered the same as a coyote with a year round season and no bag limit. This would be in the spirit of the original plan agreed upon with the wolf advocates of 100 wolves. This would force their dispersal in a southward direction towards their historical range in Mexico. Furthermore, wolf advocates should live up to the original agreement before they are trusted to negotiate a new one.
These Wolf advocates will continue to ask for more Wolves and keep asking until Big Game animals become unhuntable or non-existant. This is the advocates goal and if we don't fight against the expanding Wolf population hunting will be of the past. It's hard understand how anyone who considers themselves a sportsman or hunter could want any Wolf recovery, let alone a large recovery. I think if, or when the Wolf reaches Central Arizona it's going to get pretty expensive to keep the Wolf population going...
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There is no reason to ruin Arizona hunting due to Wolves. Once Wolves begin to multiply throughout Arizona they will destroy hunting throughout the State, and the proof is what Wolves have already done to Idaho and Yellowstone Park. Once Wolf numbers hit a certain population they eventually kill too many big game animals and will have to be controlled. It's very expensive to control Wolf populations and is an ongoing endless effort on ranchers, hunters and trappers. Idaho often establishes multiple bag limits on Wolves just to keep some kind of control to the population explosion. If Arizona can not stop the re-introduction of Wolves, we'll be wasting a lot more money and reading plenty more stories like the one's below.
--BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Idaho wildlife officials say it cost $30,000 to kill 23 wolves last month in northern Idaho.
Idaho Fish and Game announced earlier this week the money is coming from licenses the agency sells. The agency last month said USDA Wildlife Service agents killed the wolves using a helicopter in the Lolo elk zone near the Montana border to improve elk survival in the area. It’s the sixth time the agency has taken action to kill wolves in the Lolo zone in the past four years. Forty-eight wolves have been killed in all. The state’s predator management plan calls for killing wolves when Idaho Fish and Game determines they are causing conflicts with people or domestic animals, or that they are a significant factor in declining numbers of elk or deer.
Idaho Officials hike bag limits for 2012 Wolf hunt
--BOISE, Idaho — Idaho wildlife officials have agreed to boost bag limits, expand trapping and extend hunting seasons in some areas to help further reduce wolf populations in all corners of the state. The Idaho Fish and Game Commission approved the adjustments Thursday to the 2012 wolf hunting rules. The changes will go into effect when hunters set out for the backcountry later this year. Idaho's wolf managers estimate there are now 500 to 600 wolves roaming the state, down from the more than 1,000 when the 2011 hunting season opened in August. Hunters and trappers have killed 364 wolves since the season opened, while dozens more have died of natural causes, been killed for preying on livestock or targeted as part of strategy to lessen impacts on specific elk herds in the state. "Our harvest focus is to be more aggressive in areas where we anticipate more conflicts ... and providing relief on big game animals," Jon Rachael, Idaho's wolf manager, told the commission.
Idaho is one of two states with authority from the federal government to manage wolf numbers using public hunts. Federal officials require Idaho to maintain a population of at least 150 wolves and 10 breeding pairs. After protections were lifted last year, game managers in both states drafted rules for hunting and trapping. In Idaho's first season with trapping sanctioned by the state, trappers have made a significant impact on the 2011 harvest, accounting for nearly one-third of all wolves killed during the 10-month season. "Trapping has been a very effective tool," Rachael said. In Montana, ranchers and some sportsmen are growing more irritated with hunting rules that have not led to population control results shown so far in Idaho. The state's hunt that ended earlier this month netted just 75 percent of the quota of 220 animals set by game managers. Some local leaders in Montana say that's insufficient to control wolf growth and have pushed to raise the state quota or even offer bounties that pay $100 for an adult wolf carcass or $20 on a pup. Tweaks to Idaho's wolf hunting rules approved Thursday are aimed at boosting harvest numbers next year. The changes include:
- Increasing bag limits to five wolf tags for hunters and five for trappers in five northern hunting zones.
- Extending season length on private land in a northern Idaho hunting zone and on public land in two zones in eastern Idaho.
- Expanding bag limits in two hunting zones and adding trapping to two hunting units in central Idaho.
Rachael said it's too soon to measure the impact of Idaho's hunting and other management tools on the goal of stabilizing wolf numbers and bringing the species' population in line with other wildlife. A more accurate picture will emerge next year after biologists can analyze the impact of two years of hunting and reproduction cycles.
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How many are in Arizona right now? New Mexico?So 80 in the wild total? Or just 80 in the wild in AZ? I read somewhere there are 300 in captivity?
So what is the total worldwide population and where are they? 1k? 20k? 200,000? Are there a bunch in mexico?
I know with it's larger cousin the gray wolf there are like 200,000 worldwide so why re-introduce them in the States? It's not like they are endangered or anything like that. Is this the same case with the Mexican Gray?
I think we all like our game animals to much to want these in our backyard. I would like to know the whole story though.
So, looks like there are under 400 Mexican gray wolves left. Not 4000, not 40000... 400. in the whole world, 400.
What if we rounded up all the wild ones left and put them back in captivity. Then let them slowly die off due to inbreeding and what not caused by keeping then penned up. That would keep our game animal populations safe wouldn't it?
As hunters, we are all members of the original conservationists group. Without out efforts (and money) game animal populations probably would not be in the shape they are currently. That being said who here is ok with helping to contribute to the complete extinction of a species? Is that what we want? To wipe them off of the face of the planet forever?
I don't know what the answer and I don't want my game animal populations decimated, but I sure as heck don't want to be associated with helping to kill off a species.
There's a good reason why there's only 400 left on the planet......Nobody wants them!!
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Thanks for all the responses and experiences with the Ulmer Edge! Seems to be a great broadhead!
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think i'm going with ulmer edges.just screw 'em on and hunt, no foolin' around with tuning.
also, safety is the biggest issue. blades are completely encosed, so, to me, it seems safer. less chance of lacerating myself 10 miles from cell signal.
I'll probably give the Ulmer Edge a try as well. Being a newer Mechanical/broadhead it's hard to find a ton of solid information to back them up.
The things I like about this broadhead
-Field point accuracy to 100 yds
-Apply set screw to broadhead and use for practice
-Can hit at an angle without deflection because blade swivels.
-2 Blades swivel around bones (ribs) to help penetration
-1 1/2" cutting diameter, seems perfect
-2 blades lock on contact (turns into broadhead on contact). Blades won't unlock (close) after contact
-Blades are sharp on backside, to continue cutting if arrow were to fall out
-Solid broadhead tip for bone
What I wish this broadhead had
-3 or 4 blades
-Unsure about blades swivel and not swiveling back out because of meat, fur, bone causing blade not to swivel back out. This could possibly turn this broahead into a one blade after contact with bone.
Overall it seems like a great broadhead besides a couple concerns. Can anyone who has used the Ulmer Edge give additional information.
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I'm hoping for today! A few dates when results were posted since the split draw in 07'. I believe results were posted April 7-9th one year.
2007: 3/23, Fri 10 a.m. phone
2008: 3/26, Wed 9 a.m. website
2009: 3/27, Fri website
2010: 3/29, Mon 10 a.m. phone
2011: 3/29, Tue website
A few bulls from this elk season
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I agree, the bull in the 5th picture has Huge tops.