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even a bassackward state like nevada has been doin' it for about 30 years. Lark.

green aliens? only aliens i ever seen in 27 wuz sorta brown lookin'. and the tags are decreasing? i don't pay much attention to the cow tags, but haven't the bull tags increased a little lately? they went way up in u1. i do know this, per the usfw info, there aren't enough deer and elk in 27 to support the number of wolf/dogs that they want to have there. but that's a different story. i think that moving both the early hunts and the late bull back a week will improve the hunting, especially in u27. it will really improve the u1 archery and early rifle hunt. don't know if it's weather patterns or just the way o' the season, but the rut seems to be a little later and stretched out a little longer than it was some years back. i know last october it was still hot during the early hunt in u1. whatever the deal is, i'll take any bull tag they wanna give me in either one o' them units. Lark.

didn't get to hunt in 27 last year. my oldest boy helped a friend get a nice 6x7 on the late hunt, from an ugly canyon off the rim. did get to hunt a friend during the early rifle hunt in u1 tho. didn't seem like the cows were really very hot to me. the guy we were with shot a 360 bull. it was one of 14 bulls after one cow. seems to me like the rut is sorta drawn out anymore and you don't get those 8-10 days of extremely hot elk like it seemed to be in years past. and the really big bulls are completely nocturnal. never make a peep after the east horizon starts to show a little light. never saw a really big bull in the early hunt, but did see a couple real thugs on the late hunt in u1. didn't get em tho. one that a guy i know missed was shot a couple days later by some flatlander and it would probably net over 370. really a good one. 27 has some really big bulls. usually ya see em about 3 miles away in a snowy canyon in november. they don't seem to show up during the rut except at night. Lark.

i can't even think of a reply for that mess. what a cryin' shame. Lark.

i was told awhile back that pronghorn has the worst odds of all big game in Az. even less than bighorn. once the odds get below 1%, they list them all as the same. bighorn has better odds because of the high price of the permit. anyway, it took me 26 years to get my one and only Az. pronghorn permit. that was 12 years ago. i know guys that have had a half dozen rifle permits in the same time. i'm just unlucky. at least in the goat tag deal. i'm still real good lookin' and smart. with hunters safety and the habitual hunter point, i oughta have 13 or 14 points i think. i'd say rather than apply for the unit that has the best odds of drawing, i'd apply for the unit that had the best bucks in it. seeing as how you may only get one permit in your whole life, make it a good one. my poor ol' dad has never had an Az. pronghorn permit. nieither has my uncle. my aunt got one last year, after over 30 years off applying. but somebody has to get drawn. do a little home work and roll the dice. Lark.

i'll make a prediction. it won't be long till you have to buy a shed hunting license. or have to pay so much a pound for the sheds you do find. in some way the azgfd will find a way to make a buck off it. guaranteed. this deadhead crap is just that too, crap. one warden doesn't care. another one cites folks for felonies that don't exist on the books. and then they want folks to "cooperate" with em? wierd. Lark.

this is too funny. now she wants respect. heck, she might still be able to lock the place up from the joint tho. sure be a shame. turkey creek is some fine country and the road in from winkleman is one rough sob. be nice to have a season where a guy didn't have to worry about a locked gate. Lark. http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2006/05/...n/opinion03.txt

hey K, i don't know if you know it, but she's in jail right now too. guess she musta wrote the letter from there. got busted for counterfitting and spreading around bogus century notes. seems like she ended up with around a year in the pokey. she's writing because folks can pretty much have the run of her place while she's makin' license plates. Lark.

the tooth requirement has been in effect for years. sometimes they would want one, sometimes they didn't. they use a little premolar that isn't even attached to the jaw. they fall off when you clean the skull anyway. last bear i shot, i called in, in u1. phoned in the kill and that's all they wanted. said i didn't need to send a tooth, even tho the reg called for it. every other bear i've ever shot, they wanted a tooth. even before it was required, i've had em still ask for a tooth. the law states that you are supposed to eat bears. i'm sorta thinking that maybe they are going to make an effort at enforcement. lotsa guys would kill a bear and leave the carcass in the canyon. if you're serious about a rug or other mount tho, skin it in a hurry and get the skull out. bears will sour and slip the hair faster than anything. Lark.

aw c'mon '06, you know it's funny. i got a nasty gram from the "boy" this morning. no need to reply to that bs. back to the ranch. i really do feel that a lot of the reason the folks that own land near the border and get it trashed on a regular basis don't get much press is because they are considered "ranchers" and ranchers are considered bad. at least by the left. some years back there was a fairly in depth article about the trials of some of the folks in this same area. one old woman said that she quit locking her house because they would just break the door down. she said she got used to not even getting up from the tv when a bunch of em came in and helped theirselves to the contents of the 'frigerator. purty sad. Lark.

BANG, BANG, BANG. that's the sound of me banging my head against the wall. c'mon little boy, ain't ya never heard o' sarcasm? it's when ya sorta make fun o' somethin'. never mind. if all the bp's are the same intellect (smart) as you, no wonder ya never catch nobody. sheesh, what a maroon. ok guys, in case ya didn't know, sometimes i poke a little fun at hopeless situations. in case anyone else is confuses, i'm on the ranchers side on this deal. Lark.

alls i see is a red x. is that like a bullwidgeon chromosome? Lark.

the key word is "ranch". ranchers are bad, mmmkay. cows are bad, mmmkay. Lark.

the fall pig hunt makes absolutely no sense to me. put some pig hunters in the way of deer hunters? i don't get it. some years back the u27 late deer season overlapped the late bull elk hunt. man, that was a joke. it's not a lot of permits, but still seems sorta ignernt. moving the dec. whitetail tags to november is gonna backfire. i think a lotta guys are better hunters than the azgfd thinks. putting a lot of hunters on the same hunt isn't going to decrease the kill numbers. i'm betting it increases them. now the deer have drought, lions and hunter saturation to deal with. i do see a lot of procedural and regulation changes, so read the fine print. they're gonna fine print us outta the woods i think. they did raise the stinkin' mountain sheep tags on a couple hunts. from 2 to 3. 50% increase. maybe no i can use alla them sheep points i have. the lion regs seem to be a little more cornfusing that before and i see that both bear and lion killers hafta check in the carcass, physically. can't just call in anymore. so ya best pack out the meat, like the law says. oh yeah, and eat it. bear meat, things that make ya go BBLLUUUHHHH. only way to fix this is get a new governor fellers. this commission is outta control and doesn't listen to anything but each other. i see that they finally put a picture o' shroufe on the cover o' the regs tho. Lark.

looks like the gate'll be open for a year or so. http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2006/04/...news/news02.txt

right on packhorse. walk around with one in the pipe and the safety off. if that's what ya wanna do. when i'm in a place where i think what i'm after might stand up, you bet i have one in the barrel. my thumb on the safety too. sometimes the safety is off. oh yeah, and i shoot at runnin' game too. straight away, straight on, quartering away and towards me, broadside. close, far, i take whatever shot i get. i also have one in the barrel when i hunt birds. if i have a double, i have one in both barrels. never shot anybody yet. i mean other than when i was tryin' to shoot em. if you use a gun right, it won't hurt anyone. and if it's legal, it's ethical. and don't ever put me in the same boat with ya pilgrim. we ain't anything alike. guaranteed. and i'm real glad about it. Lark.

there ya go, usin' that 2 dollar word again red, ethics. just because me, you, pilgrimboy, or whoever feel that folks have some sort of limitation on their shooting ability doesn't give anyone the right to limit them. all ethics are is your opinion of something. you (and i'm using 'you' to refer to everyone, not just redrabbit) feel that someone has done something "unethical". as long as it's legal, at least when it comes to hunting, it's ethical. you may not agree with it, but it's ethical. that's the way it has to be. can you imagine what would happen if all the sudden game wardens were also ethics cops? if there was a legal range you had to stay within? "sorry sir, the breeze was above the ethical limit when you made that shot, we're gonna take your license for "ethical" reasons" even tho ya guessed the wind right and hit it between the eyes. check out the baiting issue. it's legal, it's ok. but i can still tease folks about it. but it's ok. if we keep slingin' around this "ethics" deal, pretty soon someone is gonna try and legislate ethics. then you'll have someone interpreting ethics as their opinion. folks won't be able to hunt because they can't shoot good enough or they can't afford a scope or don't have the kind of bow someone feels they oughta, etc. i've read right here on this sight that folks felt it was "unethical" to hunt and not own a range finder. others say that anyone that shoots over 40 yards with a bow is "unethical". then others have a yardage limit that they feel is unethical to stretch with a rifle. if there is one thing that the Azgfd has done a good job on it is keeping hunting method rules simple. any centerfire rifle or handgun is legal for big game. any bow over 40 lbs and with a broadhead over 7/8" is legal. if it's too dark to see, don't shoot. that's about it. they leave the rest of it up to the hunters. they know that hunters are smart enough to use adequate weapons at reasonable distances. they know that after time and experience, hopefully experience handed down by someone who has some, most hunters will turn out ok. they know that hunters are smart enough to take the shell outta the chamber before they get in the truck. and smart enought to know when it's too dark to shoot. some states have so many rules and regulations concerning calibers, draw weight, legal shooting light, etc. that you can't hardly be legal if you want to. i say do what ya wanna do and let holier than thou, smug, stuck on theirselves psuedo-snipers take their little posts, that are aimed at starting a fight, somewhere else. i was raised by one of the greatest snipers and military marksmen that ever was. i can shoot. whoever pilgrimguy is, he would be in a world o' hurt if he was really serious about packin' a target and lettin' me fling lead at it. and i'm an old guy with an old rifle. some o' you kids with these hotrod rifles, range finders, bipods, dial in scopes, etc., would probly splatter this dumb joker all over the place. every peta member thinks everything we do as hunters unethical. we each owe it to ourselves to hunt hard and be good representative of what we feel a hunter should be. the guy that throws his junk in his truck the evening before the season and heads out with a .30/30 and only gets a buck every 7th year has just as much right to the woods as someone with a half million bucks invested in his outfit and hunts 300 days a year. lets hunt. Lark.

hey pilgrimboy, i'll take ya up on that "you carry the target deal". there are some of us that really, really can shoot. and you can run as fast as you want. i get to pick the canyon. and i won't pack yer carcass out. you'll hafta make them arrangements. Lark.

first off, "ethics" ain't nothin' but somebodies opinion. ethical=legal. if a guy want's to blast away or make precision shots, it's up to him. i don't care. they're the one puttin' in the time in the field. whover this joker is, he's just tryin' to get folks riled. as for me, i'll shoot as far as i want, as many times as i want, with whatever gun i want, with whatever bullet i want, at whaever i want, and don't give a dang who says different. in hunting conditions, i'm the best shot i know. if i miss, i miss. if i hit one and have to track it down, i track it down. whatever it takes. i never don't shoot, because i'm afraid some dude will think i'm unethical. heck, ever peta creep out there thinks any shot ya take is unethical and any time ya kill somethin' is unethical. don't talke ethics. ya can't legislate em. i hafta turn my head and shudder at some of the stuff i see folks do, but i ain't gonna judge anyone who is hunting legally. well o' course, except them bait sitters. that just ain't right . Lark.

you guys ever hear the full story on this deal? that is bullwidgeon in the photos. the bear died of a self inflicted wound. he licked his butt raw and bled to death, tryin' to get the taste outta his mouth. Lark.

why would folks harrass guys packin' heat? Lark. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/l...harass0405.html

do non-residents still have to buy a license? hope this new system is better than the old one and doesn't give out a buncha sheep tags it wernt supposed to. like the old set up did. Lark.

i'm real sure there are federal laws, and i'm thinking state laws, already, that cover this. no one can legally harrass anyone who is legally hunting or fishing. but they seldom enforce it. some years back they threw some folks in the poky for interfering with a yellowstone buffalo migration hunt. but only after it got to where they couldn't even hunt. when we had the trouble in 27, it was illegal. but nobody cared. best thing is to handle it yourself i guess. Lark.

someone sent it to me a couple days ago. real bizzare for sure. schools won't let ya have a nail clipper, but they let this joker have a bomb on his desk. guess he'll be knowed as lefty from now on. Lark.

i know ya'll will holler, but big desert muleys are the hardest animal to hunt i've ever come across. i mean real desert deer. and big ones. they will flat go underground sometimes it seems. this past season i worked my butt off after 2 different ones. never even got a glimpse of em. they were never together, but came into the same few waterholes at night. only time i ever wished i had a trail camera. they'd tease me with tracks ever 3 or 4 days around the waterholes. but i could never find em. bout wore the shoes out on my horse and did completely wear out a good pair o' nikes in 10 days. and we all know that i'm the best hunter in the world. then around the first of the year my ol' man saw em both. starting to look for does i assume. at least i know they'll probly be there next year. as far as their range, i've seen bucks a good miles from where i saw em before. maybe farther. where i hunt, there is always a big migration, depending of feed, weather, rut, and i imagine whatever the mood o' the deer happen to be. Lark.