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One more thing-- the FS appears to be claiming that only the roads in highlighted in yellow are having their status changed. But that appears to be a complete fabrication. I just spent some time looking at the maps for roads north of Superior and Globe, and there are miles and miles of roads that are now labeled in purple as "administrative only", but are not highlighted in yellow. Now I know that these were official roads that were open to the public. Most of them were used by ranchers to build tanks and such. But now the forest service seems to be implying that they were never official open roads, and that they can close them to the public without including them in the list of newly "closed roads". Jared

The tonto basin meeting is tonight. The globe meeting is tomorrow. Is anyone planning on going? We need to spread the word on this. If you guys are on other hunting/fishing forums you should post the links and spread the word. The thing that really gets me about this is that the Sierra Club and their allies always seem to be organized and represented, and the ATV crowd is always represented, but it seems like the hunters who really just want access are not. Jared Here is the schedule of meetings: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:30-8:00 pm Tonto Basin Elementary School 445 South Old Hwy 188, (Punkin Center) Tonto Basin, AZ Thursday, November 5, 2009 6:00-7:30 pm Old High School Auditorium 401 High Street Globe, AZ Monday, November 9, 2009 6:30-8:00 pm Black Mountain Elementary School 33606 N. 60th Street Scottsdale, AZ Thursday, November 11, 2009 6:00-7:30 pm Pleasant Valley Community Center 47533 Hwy 288 Young, AZ Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:00-8:30pm Broadway Recreation Center 59 E Broadway Rd Mesa, AZ Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:00-7:30pm Julia Randall Elementary School 601 S Greenway Parkway Payson, AZ

Looking for pack to use in the December hunt. Would like a eberlestock J107 but would also be interested in one of the older models. Let me know Thanks Jared

That sounds like what I am looking for. I sent you a PM with my email address. Jared

Thanks-- but I actually have a 2200. I was hoping to find something bigger-- something I could backpack overnight and hike out a deer with. The expandable eberlestock's seem to be capable for that sort of load carrying. Jared

One other thing to note-- they are changing the rule from "closed if posted" to "closed unless on the new map". Basically, it could be a highway and if it is not on their new map, and you drive on it, you can be ticketed. I really agree that something needs to be done with the ATV crowd, but I see no reason to close roads that go into remote areas and are only really being used by ranchers and hunters. And a lot of little spur roads that go to campsites are being closed. Basically, you will no longer have the ability to get off the main roads to find a secluded place to camp. Jared

I sent you a PM on the 2800. Jared

I sent you a PM Jared

I am going to get a new scope for a my coues gun. The gun is custom 7mm mag built on an old mauser action. I have decided on one of the new Nikon Monarchs, with side focus, in 4x16. These scopes are getting great reviews, and they are relatively inexpensive. One thing I have not been able to decide on is whether to get the 42mm or 50mm objective. Here are the specifications for both scopes: Monarch 4-16x42SF Actual Magnification 4x-16x Effective Objective Diameter 42mm Exit Pupil (mm) 10.5-2.6 Eye Relief (in.) 4.0 -3.7 FOV at 100 yds (ft.) 25.2-6.3 Tube Diameter 1 in (25.4mm) Objective O.D. (mm/in) 49.3/1.94 Eyepiece O.D. (mm/in) 44.0/1.73 Length (in) 13.5 Weight (oz) 19.0 Adjustment Graduation (1 click) 1/4 MOA Max Internal Adjustment 40 MOA Parallax setting (yds) 50 - ∞ Monarch 4-16x50SF Actual Magnification 4x-16x Effective Objective Diameter 50mm Exit Pupil (mm) 12.5-3.1 Eye Relief (in.) 4.0-3.7 FOV at 100 yds (ft.) 25.2-6.3 Tube Diameter 1 in. (25.4mm) Objective O.D. (mm/in) 57.3/2.26 Eyepiece O.D. (mm/in) 44/1.73 Length (in) 14.7 Weight (oz) 19.4 Adjustment Graduation (1 click) 1/4 MOA Max Internal Adjustment 40 MOA Parallax setting (yds) 50 - ∞ I don't really know a lot about scopes, but I think that the size of the exit pupil can make a big difference. At 16 power the 50 mm has a 3.1mm exit pupil, while the 42mm has a 2.6mm exit pupil. My question is-- how much of a difference would that make in a low light situation? The downsides to the 50mm is extra weight and length. But In this case it does not seem like much of a difference-- the 50mm is one inch longer, but only .4 oz heavier. That does not seem like much. The other downside is that I might need higher rings. I am not sure how much of a negative that really is. Does it really matter if the scope is higher off the gun? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Jared

I was just looking at the new regs, and noticed that there is an October Coues hunt in 23. Is that new? I don't remember that being there before. Why did they do that? Did they lower the december permits to compensate? I guess it is a moot point, as there are no Coues in 23, but it seems odd. SJP