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Thats what you think. One paranoid fool with a gun can end that real quick and all the guns and ammo in the world wont bring you back. Last resort, yeah I think most people will do what they have too, even rob, but too not prepare and just think you are gonna take the easy way out and rob people from the get go is just foolish and wrong. Too many people think they will be Rambo running around the streets being some tactical guru shooting and taking as they please. It'll be far from that. Theres an article from a Serbian on the net somewhere that talked about his whole SHTF living when that area was going to heck in the 90s and how people lived and what did and didnt work. You wouldnt make it very long at all based on the events thereand how it unfolded. I'll find the link and post it.

That's the same thinking as welfare leeches. Why work or prepare when you can just steal from those who do. What makes you think you'll get what they have anyhow?

Yes that is true but putting weak candidates up for office we all knew wouldn't win is the GOPs fault. Justice Roberts was appointed by a Republican and look what that got us. So yes the Republican Party still has alot of itself to blame.

Your last part made me think of an various articles I've read that all say when things are gonna get bad, they will deny it the most and say more and more that there is nothing to worry about. Kinda creepy.

No the United States is becoming the laughing stock of the world. And both sides are to blame! I don't know if the Republicans strategy of defunding Obamacare will or would work, however the people being sent home or getting IOUs on there paycheck, aren't the fat the government needs to trim. You think Park Rangers, etc, or better yet, staff that man our federal prisons should take the same attitude and say shut it down, open the gates and let it all go just to see the shutdown? A shutdown people think will correct an issue that is far more complex. A lot of people on here use a broad brush to paint all federal employees as deserving of losing a job. I don't understand that way of thinking. You think we can function without a government? We need an efficient, effective government not one that runs our lives. Change it, but shutting it down isn't going to get rid of Obamacare. Maybe the Republicans will get a clue and spine next time and not sell us down the road, and we wouldn't all be in thins predicament to begin with. I'm a conservative that blame us conservatives for not doing enough to stop it, I expect the idiots(liberals)to be idiots.

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It's too early to tell anything yet, besides "essential" jobs are working for IOU's right now. If this goes on for along time, things will change. Unfortunetly entitlements as always are not on the cutting board so it will hurt more than help. Not right we can't enjoy our national parks and such, us taxpayers work to fund. This whole thing could've been avoided along time ago, both sides are to blame. Liberal craziness and weak conservatism.

Sloppy/ weird game ASU should of won easier but the last part of the game was terrible. Those refs screwed Wisconsin big time by not setting the ball, letting the ASU player lay on the ground with it(delay of game penalty) and then not letting them take the snap. Thought the Wisconsin QB was going to attack one of the refs. Crazy finish

The positive to that is, capacitors are cheap and easy to replace. Better than a blower motor going out

Pac-12 managment is terrible. They hurt the schools more than help with things like this. Then the deal with the refs bounty on Sean Miller is another example of Pac-12 officiating issues.

I don't understand what the QB did either. Thought it was going to be called a fumble also. Very odd way to end a game

Interested! PM sent.

For sale: FN 9mm semi auto pistol. Had less than 20-30 rounds through, like new. Got in a trade from a friend. Comes with box, manual, 3-17 round mags. $500 or trade for newer in good shape 15x50 Vortex Vipers or other like valued stuff. Safford/Thatcher area.

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No night sights, sorry.

Nothing paticular, really would rather sell but will consider gun, hunting stuff, etc.

open to trades

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That sums it up!

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I pinned it in the Campfire. I wasn't sure if you were asking for a separate subforum to be created for this stuff or just pin it in the campfire. I will leave it here for now. I missed the steak thread....gotta go find that to pin it. Amanda, Can you PM your info for where to send donations? Your inbox was full. Thanks!

Amanda-Maybe we can get a pinned thread for best food places, steak, seafood, mexican, pizza etc??? Maybe have it where people post the town/area and what kind of food. Since we all hunt, that means we travel but not always eat at camp as well as our non hunting trips that take us out of our hometowns. I always wonder about restaurants that I pass but dont eat at because I dont know the area or know anybodies opinion of. I'll donate to CW.com if this gets pinned!

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Most don't understand this. All should believe it, understand and live and die by it. I have always thought this is one of the most important statements made regarding this country. heck I have even had it in my signature block for sometime. I tell people in discussions about this phrase all the time but most people now days want convienance of protection from the government. In which they let there freedom go by the wayside to get it. Once its gone, its not coming back peacefully. Nobody wants to see these pr#$%s get off but like was said before, the trial is more about us than them. It represents how it it is SUPPOSED to be. Like the founding fathers meant it to be. Doesnt mean these guys will walk. And these rules should apply to ALL not just a select few or when convienant. Most of the constitution was meant to limit the governments power and give it to the free people yet it seems that things are quite the opposite anymore. Take emotion out of it and do it the way it was written, found guilty by a trial of his peers!

McCain and Flake are a joke! But I dont expect any different just because they have an R next to there name. Our country is in trouble, in so many ways, not because liberals but because too many so called conservatives have no spine!!