BeardownAZ

There is a certain amount of reasoning to cleaning up after yourself and not laying waste to everything around you but alot of this green stuff is taken out of hand. As long as we walk this Earth we are going to have a impact and it isnt always going to be good. Besides have you ever been overseas and see how much other countries pollute ? And none of them care either. Al Gore was a big pusher on this green movement. He should of been shut up along time ago. He was making around $150,000.00 per appearance to spread his green ideas. He cares so much about the enviroment he turns a profit out of it.

Cashier may have been well intentioned but she needs to worry alittle more about doing her job and a little less of about harassing a older, wiser generation of people with a bunch of liberal green bs. Your rebuttal to it all was very good by the way!

Anyone read any good books on hunting elk? Recomendations Maybe something similar to Duane Adams-How to hunt Coues Deer. Thanks in advance.

This was 5 days ago. Is it sold or still available??

Is it still available? Pics???

These guys are just going to be scapgoated and basically used as a diversion as to what really is the underlying problem of forest mismanagment. Ultimately they should be held reasonably responsible for there part of it but putting them in prison for life or fining them One trillion dollars isnt going to bring it back or change future decisions and how things are done with OUR public lands. This is all just a distraction to get the heat off the Feds for there part.

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It will be a blame game. Thats what the g-men do best.

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Good to know info. Where are they located??? I will make sure and avoid!

sorry TJ Sorry....You took it wrong. What I was implying that I dont think this site is boastful or the people on it are either. They are merely sharing a common interest and sharing experiances. I guess my wording was off. I was thinking of bragging in a different manner I guess. I didn't take it wrong. I was just being silly. I knew what you meant. My bad! TJ Ok chalk that one up to miss communication I suppose . Anyways, the stuff on here is enjoyable and informative. Look at the gun websites and all the posts with pics of guys tricked out AR's and such. I like seeing it as it gives ideas and shows products and things I might otherwise never know about. People who dont like "our" kind and the things we do, wont like us either way so I dont worry about it, bragging or not.

sorry TJ Sorry....You took it wrong. What I was implying that I dont think this site is boastful or the people on it are either. They are merely sharing a common interest and sharing experiances. I guess my wording was off. I was thinking of bragging in a different manner I guess.

I think there is a fine line between bragging and sharing your story and experiances. I take people who are boastful as being arrogant and unpleasant people with yes...low self esteem. Bragging is rubbing it in someones face that they didnt accomplish the same. I dont think most people here do that. So no.. I dont think these forums are "bragging" necessarily in a bad manner, with the exception of a few bad apples.

Got a pair of Vortex Talon HD's and they seem well built and very clear and much better than the Leupolds I had. More so was the great service and the added bonus thrown in that I didnt even ask for ! Thanks!

No accurate picture of the population before the fire?? Yet they put a ton of tags out anyways ! What a crock! That just confirms that they dont manage our wildlife, they just manage how much money they can possibly make.

Hope to see lots of this!!!!

I think alot of the ideas mentioned already about kids not getting involved are probably true. I would think the economy definetly would be a factor as well. But I dont think the G&F at the top care about why. They just know revenue is down and need lots more of it, especially now days. If you look at the number of hunters in some units and see how many deer you see or actually dont see, that should tell you more about there motivations towards more money. It may not be malicious intent but they need $$ to run and buy new trucks.

Sad part is it's not suprising in the least.

We(people in general) allowed politics to dictate wrongly how the forest should be managed and dealt with even though most of us here probably have more sense than those that allowed it to come to this. So when these idiots started these fires, mother nature took over and cleaned house, even to our horror and heartbreak, her way. But it will be back even though alot of us wont get to see it again the way we liked it. I just try to look at what good can come from it eventually. Hopefully my kids will get to see alittle bit of it that way it was intended.

Everything about most of the people on those shows is so fake. It seems like they are trying so hard to be these good ol southern boys that they arent. Tred Barta seems to be one of the few exceptions even before he was wheelchair bound. Seen him hunt a mule deer doe in Colorado or Idaho I believe, with his son, using long bow on foot. That was hunting. I dont understand getting so excited over killing a deer that is "farmed" and shows up to the same location everyday and no else can shoot cause it is on private land and never ventures off that acreage.

Dont even watch the Outdoor Channel anymore cause its the same thing over and over again. Glad someone else has noticed. I would like to see some of these "great" hunters come out here and do a show and hunt for Coues and not during the rut!

Or you could just cruise through Clifton and Morenci as they seem to love the roads there !

I agree with you 100 percent, its just that the corruption in this country has gotten so bad, nothing suprises me anymore. Still better than most countries but not going in a good direction for one that was setup like ours was/is.

If the people in charge of the highest office in Law Enforcement in the country dont abide by the rules, a small time politician(mayor) shouldnt be so suprising. He just doesnt have the resources to cover it up like others do in Washington. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/18/atf-chief-admits-mistakes-in-fast-and-furious-accuses-holder-stonewalling/