rclouse79

I did not have any consistency with my bow at longer ranges until I started paying attention to the level. I assume the same holds true for a rifle, which is why I have one on my gun.

.270 bolt, savage, tikka, or weatherby is what I would choose between.

If everyone were like me, there would be no more questionable shots to worry about. It is tough to shoot at stuff you can't find. Good post for those who are better hunters than I am.

Awesome! I bet Frankie was sad that dad didn't sign the tag over to him. I will have to give him a hard time in class today.

How many more tragedies will it take before America stands up and gives these illegal scumbags what they deserve? I am not certain as to its accuracy, but the following was e-mailed to me by a friend a while back. I THINK I GET IT! Let me see if I understand all this.... IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR. IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY. IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER, YOU GET SHOT. IF YOU CROSS THE TURKEY BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN PRISON! BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET: A DRIVERS LICENSE A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD WELFARE FOOD STAMPS AND, FREE HEALTH CARE? Oh well sure. That makes perfect sense

On my last hunt the zip ties that hold my binoculars to the harness broke and my butler creek flip open scope cap broke off. Things breaking can be a downer on the trip. When i got home I put together a little repair kit that fits inside an altoids tin. I cut a rectangle of cardboard, wrapped it with strong thread, threaded a needle and then stuck it all the way into the cardboard. Then I added a bunch of zip ties, super glue and some duct tape wrapped around half a bic pen case. Since I had some extra space and didn't want things rattling around I put some emergency butt wipe and a small bag of pain killers. I wrapped a strong hair tie around the tin so it does not come open in my pack. It is small enough I can stuff it in the back and forget about it, but it could potentially salvage a trip.

What the ??? Not saying you are wrong but I will need a second opinion before I buy that one.

I am not familiar on what bumping the shoulder back entails or when it should be done. Does anyone feel like enlightening me.

I just started reloading so others probably have a better idea than I do. I have only neck sized so far. I have had no problems, have fired about 150 handloads, and have gotten better accuracy than I did with factory.

I went with the rcbs bullet puller that screws into my press and clamps onto the bullet. If I know I have the correct amount of powder but seated the bullet too deep I can back it out just a scosh and then reseat it. I prefer this to beating a hammer looking thing on the ground until my bullet and powder fly out.

I was very surprised to read on my Mr. Buddy Heater that it was approved for indoor use due to its CO2 sensor. I will be up north hunting elk in December and plan on it being VERY cold. I have a huge 8 man tent. I was thinking we would be safe to use the heater as long as we had some decent ventilation and shut it off before bed. Has anybody tried using it in a similar manner that is still alive to type a response?

Worth a try.

I didn't take it apart. Just found the little allen screw from the magazine. It was a little harder to find than I thought it would be.

I cranked mine all the way down and measured it right above 2 lbs.

THIS IS KILLING ME! I am supposed to be packing to leave for a HUNTING trip tomorrow and I am sitting on my butt doing this. I think I need counseling. It has been fun, thanks for the friendly discussion 308nut. I will check back after my hunt to see if there is anything else for us to ponder.

Exactly. You are talking about just connecting the shooter to the target with the straight line and measuring your angles from that straight line. Without a point of reference an angle does not mean much. If I tell you to walk at 32 degrees it is worthless. If I say 32 degrees east of north you could do it.

I have found the root of our new disagreement. I am talking about the angle relative to a set line, the horizontal, which does not change. You are talking about the angle above the straight line path from your position to the target. This line will change depending on where your target is located. If that stipulation is added I think your statement would be correct. You would also have to say it would arrive at the same angle below that straight line to the target which is technically not the same angle, just the same magnitude. If that is not added I would still disagree because the bullet is constantly changing direction and will only be going a given direction at one instant in time.

Same thing would end up happening without air resistance at a different rate. You could use the same analogy but the shape of the hill would change because the trajectory would change. The horizontal velocity would stay constant but the vertical velocity would increase by 32 ft/s every second. The instantaneous angle could be found by taking the inverse tangent of the vertical velocity over the horizontal velocity. As the vertical velocity approaches infinity the angle approaches 90 degrees below the horizontal. After 100 seconds the vertical velocity would be about 3200 ft/s. If the bullet were shot out of the gun at 3200 ft/s it would be traveling at 45 degrees below the horizontal at that moment. after 1000 seconds the vertical velocity would be around 32000 ft/s and the horizontal velocity would still be 3200 ft/s. Inverse tangent of 32000/3200 is about 84 degrees below the horizontal. I could insert the word roughly in front of the 1 degree below the horizontal in my last post. It would be pretty close.

I may once again have to beg to differ. Saying the bullet angle does not change (“arrive at the target at the same angle”) is another way of saying the bullet travels in a straight line path which is not true. Below I set up a theoretical situation to illustrate that. Lets say you shoot at a paper target 100 yds away on flat ground at the same height as the barrel and hit the bullseye. Lets just say the initial angle of the bullet was 1 degree above the horizontal. The angle of the bullet would be 1 degree below the horizontal when it hits the target at 100 yds (not the same). Now imagine the first target was on the beginning of a hill that perfectly matched the trajectory of the bullet. A target is placed every 100 yds from 100 yds to infinity. The same bullet continues to punch a hole through the center of each target every 100 yds. Imagine that the hill perfectly matching the bullets path is infinitely long. Eventually the horizontal component of the bullets velocity would be next to zero because it has been decelerating due to air resistance. By this time the bullet would have reached its terminal velocity in the vertical direction (the weight of the bullet is equal and opposite to the air resistance resulting in zero net force and zero acceleration in the vertical direction. a.k.a. maximum speed.) At this point the bullet would be traveling close to 90 degrees below the horizontal still punching a hole through every target every 100 yds. The angle of the bullets travel is not equal to its initial angle, but it still hits the target every 100 yds. Along the way the bullet hit every single angle from 1 degree above the horizontal to just about 90 degrees below the horizontal.

What fun is that? I will probably buy one of those for my next range finder.

When Chuck Norris does a pushup he does not push himself up, he pushes the world down.

No worries. I understand you have a lot of practical shooting knowledge. I understand the part of your post I discussed was not relevant to most of the readers. Most people were more interested only in the information on how to compensate for different shots which you provided. Now for the fun part! If I knew the velocity of the gun I would multiply by the cos(40) to find the horizontal component of the velocity, and by the sin(40) to find the initial negative (downward) vertical velocity of the gun. Since there is no air resistance there are no horizontal forces which means the horizontal component of the bullet will be constant until it hits the target. I would use the equation t=d/v where d is the distance to the target and v is the horizontal component of velocity. This will tell you time it takes for the bullet to reach the target. During the time it takes the bullet to reach the target it is accelerating downward at (negative) 9.81 m/ss. Its downward displacement would be given according to the equation d = 1/2gtt + vt where g is acceleration due to gravity, t is the time to reach the target and v is the initial vertical component of the velocity. After you know how far it will drop you could compare that to the drop distance of your scope. This of course assumes that the bullet leaves the gun 40 degrees below the horizontal. If the target was 40 degrees below the horizontal the bullet would actually leave the gun at slightly less than 40 degrees since hunting rifles are sighted for a 100 or 200 yd zero.

Ok I am done. . . . . felt a little ornery today. I guess not everybody enjoys my physics ramblings as much as I do.

So you meant no gravity. . . . honest mistake. 308 quote: "Why is this? Because all of the variables were not included. If bullets were fired in a vacume, simply multiplying the distance by the cosine would work flawlessly." For arguments sake: If you were floating in the vacuum of space shooting your .308 at astro deer would you actually go to the trouble of ranging the distance and then mulltiply that by the cosine of some angle before shooting? Before you knock my question remember it was the theoretical situation you tried to set up in your explanation.

I am calm, I think this is fun. I said in my initial post that 308nut is probably a better long range shooter than most everyone, myself included. I know that I am ignorant in many areas, as is everyone else in the world. If I thought I knew something and someone pointed out that I had made a mistake I would be grateful. Thinking that you are an expert on physics based on the fact you know where a bullet will hit after punching data into a pda is ludicrous. If all you care about is where the bullet will hit and don't care about how it gets there then disregard my posts.