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By coincidence this is from Layne Simpson in Feb 2020 Shooting Times: “There are those among us who break into hives in the presence of a belted case, and while it is not actually needed on most cartridges, I have yet to experience a problem with it. Set the full-length resizing die for head spacing on the shoulder of the case rather than on its belt, and cases last as long as those with no belt.”

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Belted magnums do not have to head space on the belt. I do not neck size any hunting load. It’s been my experience that when I partially size(i.e. shoulder bump/ i.e. head spacing on the shoulder) that I am also partially resizing the base also regardless of whether it’s belted or not. This has worked for me for many decades and I don’t see a reason to switch now. I agree that a belt is not needed but whether a cartridge has a belt or not does not affect my decision.

I agree it’s a sizing issue. Lance is most likely right about a shoulder bump. I have had more then one gun where the resizing die tolerances were not tight enough to reduced the base diameter enough and I’ve have to purchase a “small base die” to get the job done. L Cazador, what did you mean by Expanded head diameter and why does belted magnum matter?

$2,600 for 2019 NIB...

Like the title says new/never used Swaro 8x42 EL Range for about $800 less than Outdoorsmans price with tax included. Of course the Outdoorsmans already has their stud included (about $90) so let’s say $700 below....

Not a chance. I’ll keep them for that. I’ll get more than $2500 on eBay, I just wanted to try CWT first....

Not a lefty huh?

Meet you in the middle: $2450

Times running out. Make an offer.

I’ll be in Phoenix Tuesday evening to fly out. Reduced to $2500. CWT gets the first shot then they go on eBay when I get home.

Geez, if these things were 10’s they would be gone the first day.

https://outdoorsmans.com/collections/binoculars/products/swarovski-el-range-8x42

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I wanted to get a shed dog and name it Horn. The wife wouldn’t go for it.

Can you post pictures of the wench....or did you mean winch? Sorry, had to do it. Free bump though.

Seating deeper gives more freebore thus reducing Pressure. Wheatherby has make a fortune this way.

Same thing happened to my son on his first buck. Shot, flop, then only hair when we got over to where he was. Turns out he barley clipped the top of the withers. I mean a 1” tear in the hide. We know cause he killed him 3 days later.

Agreed. But there shouldn’t be any/enough shock for a bull to drop. The femoral artery is right against the spine. If you clip spine there you would also hit them. That’s why I think he must of hit higher than this.

I would venture to guess you hit a little high and hit one of the spinal processes. That could explain him dropping. I wouldn’t expect a bull to drop on a vital hit that pencils through. The 210’s can blow up on a rib at 162 yards and slow down and pencil through over 500 yards yet you still believe in them. I’m thinking I would be looking for something with a broader performance window if it were me.

A couple of questions: If you didn’t get the bull how do you know the bullets failure mode? On the pencil through examples are you basing that on the exit hole?

I can not tell the differences between my VX-6 hd and non hd vx-6.

I really don't know how to price this. It was an Obama purchase, shot less than 50 times, then put in the safe.

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