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That was kind of a rhetorical question. You said poke holes them. You can do that with a 22 long rifle st 50 yds so that give us you minimum of about 100 foot-lbs. Now we just need to figure out how far you want to do that. Im assuming you want to stay super-sonic so that changes things. Its seems like you want to be able to shoot 1000 yards or more so that figures into the equation.....Im guessing you like a 6.5 caliber or larger starting at over 3000 fps. What are your favorite cartridges anway?

Ah come on. There has to be a minimum about of energy you believe in?

Wow. Lots of personal opinions there. A properly constructed bullet takes less energy 100% of the time? We will just have to disagree on this one. And yes, if it is outside of my velocity window I will not shoot. Not even a consideration. This is very gun dependent: e.g my 6.5x55 has a very different max range than my big 7s and 30 calibers and I wont exceed it.

I think you just made my point for me. A Barnes LRX bullet needs about 1600 fps to expand properly. This velocity represents a minimum amount of energy to work. Beger bullies have historically had problems on both extremes. Too much energy and they fragment. Too little and they dont expand at all. Again its still about the energy. We can talk about wether a heavier bullet from a larger caliber with more energy will be more lethal. (I think you would agree a bullet from a 338 Lapua at 2000 fps has a very different affect than a 22 cal bullet at the same velocity?) I guess I agree that maybe it would be more simple to talk bullet velocity windows. Which most manufacturers list. But velocity is a component of energy and it is really the energy than initiates expansion.

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Yes, some pre 64s had stainless barrels.

I think a bullet requires a minimum amount of velocity, therefore KE, to expand properly. Otherwise all we would need are solids. So yes, I think it always matters.

Why doesnt energy matter? I might be old school.

Almost all the he 30-06 family of cartridges benefit greatly from Hodgdon HSP. We easily get 3150 fps with 150 gr bullets and over 3000 fps with 165/168 gr. Start with H4831 load data. Just remember it is not one of their extreme powders so it is more temperature sensitive.

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I run both the 12x50s and 15x56HD a lot. My eyes arent goid enough to tell any difference in resolution. There is a huge difference in field of view. An additional 65% if you do the math. I like the 12s. My son prefers the 15s.

The Obvious is how much lighter the BTX is. And how much more compact and portable. They are very similar resolution wise. The big difference is the brightness. Remember the BTX splits the light path so each eye only receives half the light. When you first look through them they appear dim but your eyes adjust quickly and you dont noticed it. I have no complaints about the light gathering of the 95mm objective. The 65mm is a little too dark for me in the first and last 20 minutes or so.

The 65mm and 85mm objectives on the BTX are 30x. It is 35x with the 95. So the field of view is actually more with the 65mm and 85mm than with the 95mm (112 feet at 1000yds vs 96 feet) so it should be a little easier to find your subject with the 65mm. The sighting tool on the BTX actually really works well if you need it.

I bet, the 65 was as well. Only issue was finding what I was looking at with binos. Was that an issue with the 95 or was it easy to get used to?

Whats your price point? I know where you can new pair for another $2725 out the door.

Ouch. Cant even come up with and original response huh? This is my last reply to you. I think Im abusing the intent of this forum. Im sorry. Have a good night.

Such a quippy response. Did you have your friends help you with that? Actually its not if I say so. Its the definition. I'd bet I enjoy this more than you do?

Im torn on the Barret. It looks a a heck of a rifle for the price. They used Melvins design without consulting him though. Melvins patents must have expired. So I guess they didnt steal anything.

Sarcasm is used to mock or convey contemp. Or to cut/ give pain. Apparently you can dish it out....but you dont recognize it when it is directed at you? Im out.

Help me out here. I not sure I'm getting this. Was that sarcastic or downright mean?

As a society we need to figure out how to meet in the middle and not be do polarized. In particular within our own sport. When I can better understand where someone is coming from it is easier to accept, or at least agree to disagree. In any case we need to try to respect each other. I really enjoyed reading some of the posts here. Others not so much. Misdirecting because you don't agree, being sarcastic, irreverent, mean, etc seems kinda immature? Doesn't it make you part of the problem and not part of the solution? But I guess that what happens when you try to lecture the kiddies, so bring it on.

I think you are right. There can be multiple velocity/accuracy nodes. I try to find the find the high velocity accuracy node. It often just takes more time. Actually I also push them hard because I'm normally light for caliber when I shoot Barnes, therefore I don't have the best BCs. Some of my loads for smaller capacity cartridges run out of steam between around 600 yards. They did make a wonderful light load for my 3 kids growing up. And I know I didn't need their stout construction with reduced velocities. But I never found that it hurt either. I never had to be concerned with where they hit em.

Mostly directed at Trad hunters but good info. http://www.tradgang.com/ashby/Broadhead%20Performance.htm