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Yes, some pre 64s had stainless barrels.

I think a bullet requires a minimum amount of velocity, therefore KE, to expand properly. Otherwise all we would need are solids. So yes, I think it always matters.

Why doesnt energy matter? I might be old school.

Almost all the he 30-06 family of cartridges benefit greatly from Hodgdon HSP. We easily get 3150 fps with 150 gr bullets and over 3000 fps with 165/168 gr. Start with H4831 load data. Just remember it is not one of their extreme powders so it is more temperature sensitive.

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I run both the 12x50s and 15x56HD a lot. My eyes arent goid enough to tell any difference in resolution. There is a huge difference in field of view. An additional 65% if you do the math. I like the 12s. My son prefers the 15s.

The Obvious is how much lighter the BTX is. And how much more compact and portable. They are very similar resolution wise. The big difference is the brightness. Remember the BTX splits the light path so each eye only receives half the light. When you first look through them they appear dim but your eyes adjust quickly and you dont noticed it. I have no complaints about the light gathering of the 95mm objective. The 65mm is a little too dark for me in the first and last 20 minutes or so.

The 65mm and 85mm objectives on the BTX are 30x. It is 35x with the 95. So the field of view is actually more with the 65mm and 85mm than with the 95mm (112 feet at 1000yds vs 96 feet) so it should be a little easier to find your subject with the 65mm. The sighting tool on the BTX actually really works well if you need it.

I bet, the 65 was as well. Only issue was finding what I was looking at with binos. Was that an issue with the 95 or was it easy to get used to?

Whats your price point? I know where you can new pair for another $2725 out the door.

Ouch. Cant even come up with and original response huh? This is my last reply to you. I think Im abusing the intent of this forum. Im sorry. Have a good night.

Such a quippy response. Did you have your friends help you with that? Actually its not if I say so. Its the definition. I'd bet I enjoy this more than you do?

Im torn on the Barret. It looks a a heck of a rifle for the price. They used Melvins design without consulting him though. Melvins patents must have expired. So I guess they didnt steal anything.

Sarcasm is used to mock or convey contemp. Or to cut/ give pain. Apparently you can dish it out....but you dont recognize it when it is directed at you? Im out.

Help me out here. I not sure I'm getting this. Was that sarcastic or downright mean?

As a society we need to figure out how to meet in the middle and not be do polarized. In particular within our own sport. When I can better understand where someone is coming from it is easier to accept, or at least agree to disagree. In any case we need to try to respect each other. I really enjoyed reading some of the posts here. Others not so much. Misdirecting because you don't agree, being sarcastic, irreverent, mean, etc seems kinda immature? Doesn't it make you part of the problem and not part of the solution? But I guess that what happens when you try to lecture the kiddies, so bring it on.

I think you are right. There can be multiple velocity/accuracy nodes. I try to find the find the high velocity accuracy node. It often just takes more time. Actually I also push them hard because I'm normally light for caliber when I shoot Barnes, therefore I don't have the best BCs. Some of my loads for smaller capacity cartridges run out of steam between around 600 yards. They did make a wonderful light load for my 3 kids growing up. And I know I didn't need their stout construction with reduced velocities. But I never found that it hurt either. I never had to be concerned with where they hit em.

Mostly directed at Trad hunters but good info. http://www.tradgang.com/ashby/Broadhead%20Performance.htm

I can't find it online. Its on page 74 of their 2018 catalog. I've bought 2 Rifles Inc rifles on gunbroker. Rifles Inc is owned by Lex Webernic in Pleasanton Texas. Lex and Melvin Forbes of New Ultra Light Arms were two of the front runners in lightweights back in the early 80's. Lex uses lightened Remington 700 actions and Melvin makes his own light 700 clones. Melvins Rifles are Great too. My 300 Weatherby Mag weights 5 lb 4 oz. As you can imagine the a 24" steel barrel is about .5" at the muzzle. The stock with a decelerator weights 16 oz. It is a nice shooting gun. Barnes 168 gr TTSXs leave the muzzle at 3350fps and it shoots around 3/4". At least the first group anyway. With the muzzle brake its easy to shoot and possible without. I am not good enough to call my shots with it though. All up with the the scope and Extreme Bipod it is right at 7 lb 2 oz. Add another 1/2 pound for the sling and Cartridges. I seldom carry the bipod on the rifle. though so the carry weight is under 7lbs. I am very confident with it to around 700 yards and capable much further. I try not to shoot at game over 500 yards or so.....Just another personal flaw I guess! I appreciate the light weight when I trying to get closer!!! My sons 270 Win shoots 129 gr LRX under 3/4 moa at 3200fps (very mild) and 150 gr nosler ABLR well under 1/2" at 3000 fps. It weighs the same.

Since you don't have time I will post some of what they claim. Please excuse any typos. From Leupold: "Long-range rifle scopes should be optimized to shoot at long range...not to perform perfect box drills at 100 yards." "Most other manufacturers choose to make their reticles subtend perfectly at 100 yards because most shooters test the accuracy of their reticles at that distance. This may result in perfect 100-yard box drills, but it creates a massive 7% error at 1000 yards." I'm not saying whether it is right or wrong...just reporting what they say. It might be that I don't really shoot at long distance, or at least not long enough to know the difference anyway. Where I usually shoot I can only get to 800 yards. I seldom go to a spot I can shoot longer. I know if I miss my first shot at 800 I don't blame the scope, it's all on me. Usually wind or poor trigger control. Heck, 800 yards is a long way for 300 WM, bare gun that weight 5 lb 4 oz anyway. Practicing with a ultralight gun forces me to try to be perfect. I have complete faith in my Leupolds. They have never failed me. I can rack the dials back and forth, up, down left right, and I'm still zeroed. I can dial up to 600 and shoot a centered <1/2 MOA group. Big or Bust, you said "Do you even know you are saying here?" and "I suspect Leupold never says what you are claiming." You might want to rephrase you statements/questions sometimes if you aren't trying to state/imply someone is lying (or just plain stupid?). The written word can be so literal (FTF is much better. How about a beer?). Mike

Read their literature.

Thats what they claim. Have you had problems wilt Leupold?