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So pertaining to your statment above. The Commission believes that R12-4-303 exists to prohibit devices and methods that either compromise the spirit of fair chase or adversely impact hunter success rates. The recent increase in the use of baiting has resulted in disproportionally high harvest rates among those using this method of hunting. Consequently, the Commission is offering fewer hunting opportunities, which negatively impacts hunter recruitment and retention. The don’t mention the higher success rates due to Rangefinders, turreted scopes, long range shooting. And those stating they are offering fewer tags because of Baiting are also not correct. Again as Arizona hunters we can only harvest one deer a year. They say "Methods the either compromise the spirit of fair chase" If you think Game and fish should tell you how to hunt then, I feel for you. I think they need to look into the fact that deer numbers are going down but harvest percentages for rifle hunters keep climbing if they are truly concerned with managing game then they need to figure that out. We all know the answer but because they are afraid to loose revenue they will never reduce rifle tags, and if they reduce them in one unit they raise them in another Sorry for getting upset on the previous posts.
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what's stopping anyone from doing that with the current rules? 50 piles of corn per square mile of public land and a blind or treestand at every pile! where the heck do you see this? I sure as heck don't see any corn piles in the units I hunt. Take a walk around unit 23 in august. Like Stephen said above, that's BS. And if it is true they don't know what they're doing. Deer in August will rarely come to feed when given the natural food that's around. I'd like to see pictures of this so called 50 corn piles per square mile. He cant support his comment with pictures because he is just RUNNING HIS NECK.
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The fact is that AZGFD is trying to stop a way of hunting that Even POPE AND YOUNG CONSIDER FAIR CHASE. As for 50 piles of corn per sq mile on the ground in 23 in august WTF, I'll call bull crap on that you would be hard pressed to get a deer to eat corn in august with all the fresh feed out there. For all those that don't want to see this change make sure you don’t stop here on this site send those e-mails. I also keep hearing people referring to corn, Let me just say that only 2% of the feed mixture I use is corn.
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In addition, the Commission believes that R12-4-303 exists to prohibit devices and methods that either compromise the spirit of fair chase or adversely impact hunter success rates. The recent increase in the use of baiting has resulted in disproportionally high harvest rates among those using this method of hunting. Consequently, the Commission is offering fewer hunting opportunities, which negatively impacts hunter recruitment and retention. This is also stated in the memo. THE fact is HUNTERS IN AZ CAN ONLY HARVEST 1 DEER PER YEAR, WEATHER IT BE SHOOTING THEM AT 1000 YARDS OR AT 10 YARDS WITH A BOW.SO SAYING THAT ARCHERS ARE BECOMING TO SUCCESSIFUL SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON THE MATTER. now the commission is trying to tell us as the hunters what fair chase is???? im telling you its only the begining if this passes.
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http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/rules/documents/Article3NPRM.pdf Above is the link to the rule changes. Everyone here has their own opinion on this matter. 20 states allow hunting over bait, numerous others allow supplemental feeding but it has to be stopped 10 days prior to hunting season. I have contacted most of the states that allow supplemental feeding and they are not concerned with the transmission of disease by animals congregating. The ones I have contacted all stated that animals will naturally congregate and have for thousands of years, through Migration, at water sources, at mineral sites, at food sources, at scrapes, licking branches, and during mating season. I'm sure most of you are aware that Ward's Outfitters has been supplemental feeding for years, I have not noticed a reduction of fawns as a matter of fact in some areas I have noticed a small increase. I have not noticed predators hanging around the area; we get very few pictures of predators at sites. We are able to be more selective on the age class animals we harvest, animals go into the dry season in better shape than they would in areas we are not supplimenting.Please send an e-mail opposing this ban to all the commission members.
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Let see if one of our clients can whack him!!
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Just started this spot with a new mix i formulated a week ago I guess it works !!!
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Anyone know who has the governors tag for coues ?
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I'll take the leica 1600 call me 520-404-5114
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1992 Suzuki Sidekick Price Drop $2500.00
wardsoutfitters replied to wardsoutfitters's topic in Classified Ads
price drop 2500.00 going to buy new liberty this weekend -
For sale 1992 Suzuki Sidekick JLX 4x4 . all parts new 3000 miles ago. shocks, struts, mass air flow sensor, throtle position switch,exaust,exaust manifold,plug wires, distributer cap,cv axles and boots,electric fan, roof rack with lights,ac compressor, dryer, door handles inside, timing belt . tires are 50%. Runs good just a little under powered. 162000 miles, Interior need work. Power windows, power door locks. manual transmission. $3500.00 OBO Steven Ward 520-404-5114
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Who Cares, First come first serve, I know one thing is certain the bucks know where your camera is they can hear it activate!!! I'm guessing unit 33 somewhere. I know it’s not where I hunt because it’s to green!! We are super dry in our areas but bucks are going down at the manmade waters!!!! Hauled 30 gallons this morning to 6 spots I’m tired!!!
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Call me I have a few areas you can do really well in!! Steven Ward 520-404-5114
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Anyone load for 300UM?
wardsoutfitters replied to hiawatha's topic in Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing
give me a call if you would like I could send you a few of my loads to see how they shoot for you. 520-404-5114 -
Anyone load for 300UM?
wardsoutfitters replied to hiawatha's topic in Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing
try 87 gns of r-25 w/ 190 sierrra match king, fereral primer -
Leupold 20-60x80 HD Spoting Scope.
wardsoutfitters replied to wardsoutfitters's topic in Classified Ads
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I have a new leupold 20-60x80 Gold ring HD , They retail for no less then 2000.00 I have two of them and will take $1800.00 Steven 520-404-5114
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I have a new leupold 20x60x80 Gold ring HD , They retail for no less then 2000.00 I have two of them and will take $1800.00 Thanks Steven 520-404-5114
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Two Javelina Bag Limit (under some circumstances)!
wardsoutfitters replied to 1uglydude's topic in Javelina
If we could hunt Coues and Mule Deer during the rut like they do in Mexico, we could also harvest giant deer in AZ. Even without hunting during the rut Arizonans harvest great bucks every year. If the tags are available then why not get a second tag!! Also keep in mind most hunters that hunt in Mexico are true trophy hunters and are not willing to harvest smaller bucks. There is no reason true serious trophy hunters in AZ shouldn’t harvest 100” bucks year after year. -
Two Javelina Bag Limit (under some circumstances)!
wardsoutfitters replied to 1uglydude's topic in Javelina
This is a great Idea, Now lets do the same for Deer !!! -
Thats a great buck >>>>
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If anyone draws unit 32 let us know we have a private ranch 12 sections that is full of trophy Coues Deer and Mule Deer. 100" + bucks guaranteed on the December hunt.
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Check in the washing machine , my kids get rich looking in there
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Holy freak I am so lucky !!!! I got bonus points for all the hunts I applied for , THANKS AZGFD
