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We built our home on a rock pile that had a significant population of packrats, kangaroo rats, mice and ground squirrels.The rattlesnake population was proportional to the rodent population. In the beginning it took me 2 years of trapping diligence which continues now after 10 years. My rat/mouse/ground squirrel kill has dropped from 2 or 3 each day to 1 or 2 /month. The payoff is that I have not seen a rattlesnake on the property for the last 3 years. Two neighbors have taken the challenge which also helps. I feed quail and doves every morning but no rattlesnakes. Keep up your trapping program. If a rattlesnake can't make a living on your proerty it will move on. (My theory has been disputed by some but it works for me.)

They probably have standing contracts to provide the feds with ammo. If they break the contracts, they get sued. Federal orders come before all others. Thats why the feds can tie up the ammo production I'm thinking that the answer to the Krazy's original question is also MONEY! Ammo makers are in business to make money. Even if they didn't have a contract why on earth would they 'not' sell to the government if they're willing to buy? BTW, I agree Snapshot I'm sure they must a contract. Can you imagine the red-tape wrapped around that contract process??? lol S. Good points. I would like to know how much the government pays per round for any given caliber/cartridge designation. I suspect it would be much like NASA's hammers and the infamous $$$$$ toilet seats.

If you don't read this, Shame on You. Here is the actual Link: http://www.lautenberg.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=341435& More control from the feel good left.

Read this and the links carefully. Impossible? Draw your own conclusions. http://k99.com/governor-hickenlooper-about-to-give-secret-service-power-to-arrest-colorado-sheriffs/?trackback=email

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) wants to tax your gun rights. His new legislation charges you a fee that is in essence a federal tax on selling or giving away your firearm, and he lets Attorney General Eric Holder decide how big that tax will be. Senate Democrats Charles Schumer of New York, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, and Barbara Boxer of California have introduced a raft of gun control legislation (S. 374, S. 54, and S. 146, respectively). Senator Leahy, who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee, rammed the legislation through committee in record time—not even bothering to issue the customary committee reports to explain the bills—and Reid combined the bills into a single gun control bill (S. 649). Firearms owners across the country and others who care about their right to keep and bear arms should keep a close eye on the Reid legislation. Your rights are under attack. Gun rights have been important since before there was a U.S. Constitution. In Federalist No. 84 of May 28, 1788, Alexander Hamilton dismissed the idea of adding a bill of rights to the Constitution, saying “why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do?” But the people of the several states had a healthy skepticism of the proposed central government, and their skepticism extended to the potential for that new government to infringe upon their right to firearms. Nearly a third of the delegates to the Pennsylvania ratifying convention dissented from ratification because the new Constitution did not sufficiently protect individual rights. On December 18, 1787, they published the 14 amendments they thought necessary, the seventh of which was: That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals… In Virginia, it was a majority rather than a minority that had doubts about whether the Constitution sufficiently protected individual rights. Ultimately, the Virginia convention ratified the Constitution, but it recommended on June 27, 1788, early adoption of a bill of rights, to include: “That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state….” Advocates of the people’s gun rights ultimately carried the day in the federal Congress, and the states ratified what is now known as the Second Amendment, which guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Title I of the Reid gun control bill purports to “fix gun checks.” The proposed “fix” in section 122 of S. 649 is to take away an individual’s right to sell or give away a firearm to another individual unless, in most cases, the individual (1) uses a licensed importer, dealer, or manufacturer to make the transfer of the firearm and (2) pays a fee to that importer, dealer, or manufacturer to make the transfer. The individual transferring the firearm is not actually receiving a service; the federal government is receiving the service. The service the government gets is a background check on the intended recipient of the firearm, because the law requires the importer, dealer, or manufacturer to run the recipient through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. Forcing the individual to pay for the government-mandated service, which is in fact a service to the government, is in essence a federal tax on the individual. And the amount the individual pays as a fee is not limited by the legislation; section 122(a)(4) of the Reid bill enacts a new section 922(t)(4)( (i) of title 18 of the U.S. Code to grant to Attorney General Eric Holder the power to set the maximum fee by regulation. The Reid gun tax is but one of the dangers of the Senate Democrats’ gun control legislation. Senator Reid has the gun control bill on the fast track through the Senate. Those who care about their gun rights should remember Obamacare: The faster and harder Senators try to ram legislation through the Senate, the more you know the legislation is bad for America. Posted in Featured, Rule of Law - Heritage Foundation

#3001 would mean there were over 3,000 permits available for that hunt.

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If that had been any one of us the dog would have been euthanized and PETA would have some local or state law enforcement agency write a citation. It would end up being an expensive proposition.

Fox News reported this today. The post might fit elsewhere but since the Kelly/Gifford gun trasaction was a politcal move I posted it here. My congratulations to Diamondback Police Supply in Tucson. This was an appropriate decision under the circumstances. It is about time that all that someone used the power of the people as a response to the leftwing lunacy that is sweeping across AMERICA. azmetalman A Tucson gun store owner has decided to rescind the sale of a military-style rifle to Mark Kelly, the husband of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, after Kelly said he had intended the purchase to make a political point about how easy it is to obtain the kind of firearms he's lobbying Congress to ban. Kelly's March 5 purchase of an AR-15-style rifle and a 45.-caliber handgun at Diamondback Police Supply sparked a frenzy of reaction from both sides of the debate after he posted to Facebook a photo of himself shopping. A background check took only a matter of minutes to complete, Kelly said in the Facebook post, adding that it's scary to think people can buy similar guns without background checks at gun shows or on the Internet. But Kelly couldn't immediately take possession of the rifle because the shop had bought it from a customer. As a result, the store is required by a Tucson ordinance to hold the gun for 20 days to give the city enough time to make sure the weapon wasn't used in a crime. Store owner Doug MacKinlay said Monday in a Facebook post of his own that he "determined that was in my company's best interest to terminate this transaction prior to his returning to my store." "While I support and respect Mark Kelly's 2nd Amendment rights to purchase, possess, and use firearms in a safe and responsible manner, his recent statements to the media made it clear that his intent in purchasing the Sig Sauer M400 5.56mm rifle from us was for reasons other then for his personal use," MacKinlay said in the statement. He added that the store will return Kelly's money, donate the rifle to the Arizona Tactical Officers Association to be raffled as a fundraiser and make an additional contribution of $1,295 -- the value of the rifle -- to the Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program. Kelly's purchase of the guns sparked accusations of hypocrisy from gun-rights supporters, with many on Facebook focusing on his motivations and the rules for purchasing such guns. Kelly, a former astronaut, said he intended to eventually hand in the rifle to Tucson police but planned to keep the handgun. Kelly and Giffords started a gun control advocacy group, Americans for Responsible Solutions, amid the wave of recent mass shootings. They have been touring the country in recent months in support of expanded background checks for gun purchases. Kelly bought the guns at a Tucson shop the day before he appeared with his wife at the supermarket where she was wounded during a shooting rampage that left six dead and 12 others injured two years ago. Giffords resigned from Congress last year as she continues to recover from her injuries. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/25/gun-store-rescinds-mark-kelly-rifle-purchase-questions-his-intent/#ixzz2OesAWsfI

OUTDOOR CHANNEL PULLS PRODUCTION FROM COLORADO DUE TO CO. SENATE BETRAYING 2ND RIGHTS! PLEASE SHARE FAR AND WIDE! - From: Michael Bane, Subject: OUTDOOR CHANNEL Pulls Productions from Colorado Dear Senator King; I met you yesterday after the so-called "public hearings" on the antigun bills; as I mentioned, I am an Executive Producer for OUTDOOR CHANNEL. I currently have four series in production, included GUN STORIES, the top show on OC, with several additional series in development. My series focus on guns, hunting, shooting and the outdoors. This morning I met with my three Producers, and we made the decision that if these antigun bills become law, we will be moving all of our production OUT of Colorado. We have already cancelled a scheduled filming session for late this month. Obviously, part of this is due to our own commitment to the right to keep and bear arms, but it also reflects 3 lawyers' opinions that these laws are so poorly drafted and so designed to trap otherwise legal citizens into a crime (one of our attorneys referred to them as "flypaper laws") that it is simply too dangerous for us to film here. I can give you chapter and verse on the legal implications if you need, but suffice to say that the first legal opinion was so scary we went out and got two others. Al three attorneys agreed. We are relatively small potatoes in television, but our relocation of production will cost Colorado a little less than a million dollars in 2013. Secondly, we have proudly promoted Colorado in our productions (and have been moving more and more production into the state); now we will do exactly the opposite. What does this mean for Colorado? The community of television producers is a small one. Last week I had lunch with a major network producer who was looking to locate his new reality series in Colorado. That producer is also a shooter, and the new reality series will now be based out of Phoenix. That lunch cost Colorado over a million in economic impact. Thirdly, according to numbers I received from the National Shooting Sports Foundation (for whom I used to work) yesterday, hunting had an almost $800,000 impact on Colorado in 2012, driving as many as 8330 jobs. Next month I will be in Texas meeting with most of the top outdoor/hunting producers, and the Number One agenda item will be Colorado. Already, hunting organizations and statewide hunting clubs around the country are pulling out of Colorado, and we expect this trend to accelerate rapidly. The message we will take to our viewers and listeners is that these proposed laws are so dangerous to hunters and any other person, be he a fisherman or a skier who brings a handgun into the state for self-defense, that we cannot recommend hunting, fishing or visiting Colorado. We reach millions of people, and, quite frankly, we have a credibility that Colorado government officials can no longer match. Colorado Division of Wildlife is already running ads trying to bring more out-of-state hunters to Colorado...in light of the flood of negative publicity about these proposed laws, I can assure you those ads will fail. We estimate that as many as one-quarter to one-third of out-of-state hunters will desert Colorado in the next 18-24 months, which will quite frankly be a disaster for the hunting industry in Colorado and have a devastating effect on our western and northern communities (certainly like Grand Junction). This is not a "boycott" in the traditional sense of a centralized, organized operation; rather, it is more of a grassroots decision on where shooters, hunters and other sportsmen are willing to spend their money. Look at the collapse of the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show in February. That venerable multimillion dollar trade show chose to ban modern sporting rifles and standard capacity magazines, and with three weeks it collapsed as all vendors and sponsors pulled out. Colorado is going to pay a huge price for laws that will do nothing. Thank you, sir, for your support. Michael Bane - OUTDOOR CHANNELmbane@outdoorchannel.com

That makes 2 of us. I use an old machinists vise. The jaws are padded with 2 layers of leather from from the tops of an old pair of roughout boots. This will secure a stock, barrel or action with out marring the surface.

Credit card hit for $114.00. It will be either rifle or muzzleloader. Doesn't matter to me. The opportunity to hunt elk in AZ again is a real treat. Busy elk year with an early hunt planned in Colorado. For those of you who study draw points......I was really fortunate to draw with only 3 points since my last AZ permit/kill. Maybe I ought to buy a lottery ticket this week.

I take scrap anything.... steel, brass, aluminum, electric motors, etc. to Davis Salvage on Washington St. in Phoenix. Easy transaction with a cash payment on site.

The S4 Gear Lock Down binocular harness is the best equipment investment I made last year. Although it is a tight fit I use mine primarily to carry 15x56's. It is comfortable and I really prefer the S4 to several other brand name binoc carriers/harnesses I purchased in the past. The binocular weight is well distributed across your back and the wide harness straps don't dig into your shoulders. Don't buy the early model. The X2 is much improved and S4 solved the problem of the harness riding up the back of your neck that plagued the first design. My only complaint is the flat elastic straps tend to slip once they are adjusted. After 2 trips I adjusted them to fit my torso and my wife sewed each pair of straps together near the adjuster loop on each side. That ended the adjustment creep.

Surprising New Find: Hunting Harvest May Reduce Size of Trophy Horns and Antlers A team of scientists has just completed a comprehensive analysis of 108 years’ worth of data on the size of horns and antlers among 25 trophy categories in North America and discovered that, over the past century, size of trophy horns and antlers for most species has declined slightly. The team of six biologists — from Idaho State University, the University of Montana, the Arizona Game and Fish Department, and the California Department of Fish and Game, led by Dr. Kevin L. Monteith, now at the University of Wyoming — analyzed 22,000 records of trophy categories of big game from North America, including mule deer, mountain sheep, and moose. Publishing their results in The Wildlife Society’s newest Wildlife Monographs, the authors found a small (less than 2 percent) but consistent decline in horn and antler size across most trophy categories over the past century. Through careful analyses, the biologists ruled out several potential causes of the declines, including climate change, habitat alterations, and the “sociological effect” of increased interest among hunters in submitting trophies to the record books. Instead, the analyses provided moderate support for intensive harvest of males as the most likely explanation for the declines, which lowers male age structure, allowing fewer animals to reach trophy status prior to harvest. The findings have potential implications for management of many species, although the small declines in size of trophy horns and antlers may be of little importance relative to the benefits of hunting as the cornerstone of wildlife management in North America. Nevertheless, the authors offer several recommendations to managers concerned about balancing overall opportunity to hunt with opportunity to harvest large males. The authors were “initially quite surprised” by the results, says Terry Bowyer, who oversaw the analyses at Idaho State University. Yet he adds that no other study has spanned the time (108 years), geographic extent (all of North America), and range of ungulate species (25 trophy categories), or amassed such a huge sample size (22,000 animals), using precise official horn and antler measures of the Boone and Crockett Club. “There is little doubt that our findings are real,” he concludes. “We hope our research will be of value to fish and game agencies charged with the management of these important natural resources.” Contact: Lisa Moore, lmoore@wildlife.org

I have had work done in both shops. I won't use anyone but Patrick Holehan Custom Rifles, www.plholehancustomrifles.com/ . He has done my work for the past 15 years. The Winchester M70 is his preferred action. His work is superb. My LR .300 Win Mag build is currently in his shop waiting for Kreiger to deliver the barrel. Use Patrick and never look back.

Watch this!!! Ryan Cleckner has many excellent videos that are produced by the National Shooting Sports Foundation. Here is one that takes the mystery out of up and downhill shooting. He was a sniper, really knows his stuff and is a good teacher.

I have made several firearms and accessory sales on gunbroker.com over the past year. I like the site and have had no problems. They have a number of tools and tips to help your sales efforts. I suggest FedEx ground for shipping long guns. I use a dealer in Scottsdale to ship handguns which I find to be a major pain and expense otherwise. I prefer to use the 7 day sales option. You can verify the receiving FFL on line. I also call the receiving FFL license holder. I suggest accepting U.S.Postal Money Orders or Bank Cashier's Checks only for payment. If you are going to sell and ship long guns, uline.com sells shipping cartons in various lengths that are specifically for them. Also you can buy bulk styrofoam peanuts on line that are significantly cheaper than any local source. Buy the low static peanuts. They are much easier to work with. These 2 items save you a bunch of time and the hassle of building your own shipping cartons and the peanuts are easy to use and keep the firearmsafe and free from movement in the carton. Don't flinch at the price of cartons and peanuts because if you amortize the cost on a per gun basis it is cheap. If you want to discuss the overall process send me a PM.

Amanda everytime I log on my system detects and destroys a Trojan.

ThomC....... only we senior Coues hunters know the name and legend John Doyle. I put a rubber crutch tip on mine for extra stability. The crutch tips last forever.

Take a look at longrangehunting.com and accurateshooter.com. There is a wealth of information on these sites. You will find many loads, ideas, theories etc. which will give you a good place to start. These are my 2 best sources on a day ot day basis. Most questions posted are answered thoughtfully.

Work up a load or buy Premium Ammunition with Barnes TSX 140 or 150 grain bullets and never look back. I would be happy to share load data with you.

You and your family are on our prayer list now. Prayers will continue. I am a survivor..... so if you would like to talk send me a PM.

Love gnarly racks.

Thanks for the input guys. It is on the way. 6.5 x 20 x 50 with turrets. I appreciate you taking the time to give me your thoughts.