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Well, it hasn.t even been 24 hours since results are out and i'm already chomping at he bit. With last year's bull tag in 22 i dumped all my efforts into 22 for deer and turkey as well. All in all we found a feather for turkey, during season that is. On one of my trips up to scout/help on my buddy's late archery bull (also in 22) i had them walk into about 10 ft of the tree i was sitting against. Even had to defend myself with pinecones so they wouldnt bust and ruin Merle's bull stand. I got one of my coworkers hooked on going. He got blanked for hist first turkey hunt and deer last year. It's time for a little redemption in unit 23. lol. Never hunted turkey in there, but camping with the family and deer hunts, i've seen plenty. We always stick to below Young and see alot. My brother was out walking my dog on a camping trip in june and he popped loose two hens and some poults. Anybody have information about the top half of the unit? Anyways, where is everyone else going his year? Every trip is awesome, but anything to make this year stand out?

seen that on FB this morning from one of the other (phx) local radio stations. hillarious. is that the real posting?

yeah,, i have a flatline for 22n... and i was thinking of doing the same for the 23 unit. I guess the hing i wasnt sure about is there is a north and souh 23 map. Where some of the the other groups offering the high quality maps are all one unit. Just asking around before i pulled the trigger on a purchase

So last year i went out and bought a Flat line map for 22n for my hunts. I friggin love that map. It seems so easy to use and dang near indestructable. We were using sandard topo's before. I know my brother said you can go directly to blm and get them to print maps of a specific area for about the same price as a regular map, but you can center it on the area you desire. I was looking at the "hunt unit maps.com" site and their products. Anyone have any thoughts and comments about these? who uses what map and why do you like that brand. Also i seen HU has "unit packets" for 20 bucks that have information about the unit: This Downloadable file contains both the "Hunt Unit Information" and "GPS Unit Waterholes". This information is specific to the type of deer located within the Hunt Unit: ie: Mule Deer and/or Coues Whitetailed Deer. It also contains information such as: hunting locations and hunting strategies and tactics for archery, muzzleloader and general rifle hunts. Has anyone here ever purchased the packes? Was it worth it? I seen there were some other companies that had GMU maps for sale all about the same price. Need to get a new/better map for 23 and start getting out there. Just trying to decide which maps are beter. Thanks everyone

This is what we have, folds up smaller than a camp chair. The travel john is its own company, and runs for about 30 bucks on amazon. This is the second one ive had in the last 10 + yrs of camping/hunting.-I use a hole method , not really in the market for a bag of yuck to bring back from camping. the chair can usually fit nicely over a foot wide hole and then just "trench it" length wise (after i go the depth) to keep from digging a second hole (as long as it all fis in the cabela's privy shelter. My buddy made his own by trimming the back off of a folding metal chair (like the old school bingo hall ones) and cuting a hole in it (obviously). He then affixed a toilet seat to it (i'm assuming magic, or probably liguid nail) Either method is way better than trying o squat or anything like that

How can you tell you've been on CWT for toooo long? The disclaimer to prevent wise acres from asking or expecting the bed to go with the gun. ha ha ha. ---- Other than that, that's a swee set up. got me thinking about maybe getting a 3rd remington. good luck with the sale

23 for me and the fellas, both mules and turkey

according to the AZGF access mapper thing they got, when i zoom in its 26m. but it does appear to be "no mans"...err "no unit" land. 20b curves up around lake pleasant and isnt actually in the unit. Looks like the swath of land goes from the border of 20b to uo across the 17 to the new river area

23 turkey, and 23 mule deer.

One of my coworkers goes to a "primitive skills" camp every february in maricopa (?). He said Cody is a frequent guest/instructor out there at the week event. (I know you meant the other guy, but just thought id chime in)

Umm....... Why "should they let us know by now........" ?? You do know the process, right? Why "should" they have to let us know? Sounds like you're feeling entitled to something that you were never promised and that you 'wish' they would let us know, but the fact is that they are following the process and will likely adhere to the dates that were published. Anyone who applied electronically and was lucky enough to get drawn (me included) will just have to wait it out. S. First, sorrry... yes the point isn't the deadline. well secondarily, it is. My point about the deadline is because the hypothetical "delay" now is becuase they have to go back and make 2,400 phones calls (3 attempts for 800 people) to see if they have a different solution to them not being drawn. A deadline to put in. A deadline to adjust cards. Done. And like stanley and some of the other guys have said, There is no release date. The only dates they have are the 28th for leftovers, and the 8th for mailings. I again, agree wih stanley. Its a sense of entitlement that us card users assume we have "our card, our money, our purchase.... why cant we know?".... We can know... when the draw gets completed. On the other end of the spectrum.... they don't have to make results available to us by phone or online. (that's a courtesy)... technically we could have to wait until the tags were in hand.

Stanley is exactly right. There is NO OFFICIAL DRAW DATE. Just a thousand or so of us impateint outdoor enthusiasts that have jumped to our own conclusions. The only thing they have published was an official date for left over tags, and when the "'checks' in the mail" date. It does officially suck for those that put in for that archery hunt in august. But at the same time, I'm guessing if you have the patience to do archery in august, you more than likely already know what unit, tree, and or place you want to camp is... months ago. Instant gratification! Me personally, thats half of the reason why i put in for the hunt with my CC. The other reason is ease of finance. I can use a credit card to pay for the hunt (and or, i can collect applicable data) so i can get my app submitted so i dont have to wait for my globe trotting brother or the two other guys that put in with me to have funds before i submit. I like it. I too have fallen for the modern nicety of instant charges, and tracking. But all in all that is trying to "cheat the system" in a way. We know we get to go, be considerate of our "paper companions" and sit on your hands until it comes out officially. lol. There is nothing that states they will tell you where you get to go, when they charge your card. thats what the draw is for,. G&F had to publicly announce on their facebook page to not call the office to check on draw resulsts the very first day charges started to come out. ---- And i know i said it before, a deadliine is a deadline. Dead means no more. lol.... I dont see why the department is making the 3 calls to even one person, to try and rectify their credit card. Working retail on the side to be able to fund my adventures.... it is not up to me to ensure that you have sufficient funds when you come in to pick up parts. They have set the second tuesday as the deadline in feb, june, and oct... and nice enough to remind us that use cards to make sure everything is in order. After that, roll the bones and hope for the best. I've missed credit card and paper deadlines it sucks, but oh well. Remember calling the hotline for draw results!?!? Now that sysem sucked. One phone number for all of the planet to use! I remember setting an alarm for 2:30 am, to attempt to call in to find out, and still getting the busy signal.

turkey is 25, i got my tag for us for deer, and my tag charge for us for turkey. the turkey charge was 100 (4x25)

if i recall correctly, the fire restirctions got lifted pretty much statewide back on the 8th of july. have fun, stay safe, and shoot straight

holy crap.... she looks just like my Hank (male eng pntr, 5 yrs old). i was skimming through the post looking at the pictures. Thought my family may have put my dog up in an ad at first. ha ha ha. Hank has a docked tail and doesnt "know" wha a bird is though. ha ha

Seen a picture earlier this morning... ot Steven the great exotic hunter, Triumphantly next to the last known unicorn. Such a thing of beauty, but a heckuva trophy. Now who's gonna make the rainbows though? ha ha people are idiots ----- As for the az G&F and sasquatch.... i bet they treat it just like the ferral hogs... where "they dont exist" so theres technically no need for regulation. Fair game on the sas and pigs.

at least there not "tending to nature" in front of your trail cam. ha ha ha

call the coyotes.... apparently they can get anything across, on foot.

i got my cc charged for deer and turkey at the same time

I just purchased a coleman instant up tent from my buddy. (had to upgrade for more people camping) The one i picked up is a 10x14 8 person. I know thats to huge for you, but even new it runs $240 (amazon). Or i know they have different sizes in the instant up group. even at the colossal size of 10x14, i can set it up or take it down in about 3 minutes. the thing is pretty sweet. ive had it on two trips this summer and have set i up three times in the yard just for fun i think. ha ha.

I got hit, we were a "full boat" for deer and turkey... so four tags for each. Now the exciing part and getting to see wha lucky choice we got. --- Seyha, you asked about the BofA app.... I dont have the app, but i do have an online usage alert set up on my account. It comes up with everything (i think). although 4 turkey tags was 100, and four deer was 180... I know the fraud alert is almost instant when the charge goes through

i have to agree with big browns... I too agree that the majority is on the first day, but i dont hink its as high as 95. The process is drawn and then cards rejected then moved on. I know on my BofA card, the charges made send an almost immidiate alert that it was used (seen it happen paying bills online or making purchases) But i know it took a few days for my 2012* cow tag to hit. Especially when TJ informed me he got charged saturday morning for his tag. mine came through on like tuesday afternoon. *and yes, i know the process has evolved from two years ago. On a much brighter note.... I got mine. so neener neener.(just kidding).... deer and turkey 2014 here we come.

I always debate which to buy, wait to see if we draw for elk, get wrapped up in spring/summer camping and miss the deadline. Parta me wants to do it just in hopes of having a "gimme" tag of any elk anywhere.... so i dont have to wait until they all disappear during the season maybe next year i will save my pennines for the tickets. I think i would do elk, mule, and then the big horn

Maybe one of the generous sponsors here on CWT can work their magic and convice these guys to share their movie night with us in Az. The name of the other hunting/outdoor movie escapes me now (about 2 years ago), but they didnt show that one anywhere close to the state either. http://huntingfilmtour.com/ I watched a couple of the trailers here and the entire thing looks pretty awesome. I dont have any travel plans, but maybe some of the other members might luck out and get to partake in watching them in their entirety.

it was 22 degrees at camp the last three mornings we were in 22n for the late bull (not the late, late bull... those poor guys with that hunt!). I'd be willing to pay for someone to come back to camp.... they can have the coffee ready and the heater lit in the pop up, maybe a warm breakfast. ha ha ha