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was just trying to keep TJ buttered up incase i draw that bull hunt for 22n again. ha ha

TJ you need to change your screen name to "Unit 22 expert". ha ha :-) I got no clue where that is, but am amazed at your knowledge as always.

I reread that stupid email three friggin times, hoping i misread it and it was the notification that it was for the draw. oh well. "wah, wah, waaah". hopefully soon.

i was hoping for rum, oh well. ... just kidding. good luck with your sale

Each and every hunt is memorable, luckily for my group, this past Javelina was even more so. In the years past my brother and i hunted with a bigger group down in 32. The group sort of disbanded and we forged out on our own. On a whim i invited my coworker steve t come out last fall for his first ever turkey hunt, then his first ever deer hunt. Luckily before the frustartion of not seeing any animals set in, i convinced him to put in for Javelina with us. One of the guys was convinced that crown king (or in that area) was where it was at. we dropped in for 20b. Time ran short as always, and i didnt get out to scout as much as i had hoped. We dideventually come to a consensus on where to camp. Monday before the opening Steve asked me if his son could go. I figured it was half "first man tirip" and in reality... bargaining chip for his wife. "Look i'll bring Christian with me if i still get to go". ha ha. Armed with his red rider Christian (9 yrs old) quickly earned the name "rapid fire". Good thing bb's are cheap. We worked one general area the first day. The next morning we made our way through to wickenburg. A late lunch on the side of the road on the way back to camp soon turned into the best decison ever. A rancher pulled up and asked us how the hunt was. Said we only seen a little bit of sign but so far no pigs. He directed us up a wash and said he found them earlier that morning. From the pavement, the area didnt look promising. flat, full of atv tracks so we continued up. Came across a bunch of dirt bikers and some camps. Was almost frustrating. We pushed on, and right about the time i was gonna suggest we get out to hike the hills and look around we rounded the bedn to a herd of a bout 12. By the time i got out of the jeep they were in the brush. Looked to see where Steve and my brother were at and to start the stalk. Tim went up the wash to watch for them to ridge out and come down the other side. Ben and steve started up into the flat (that had a horseshoe shaped ridge around it). I started blowing the J13 to see if they would come back. Steve's first shot was into the back hip and put the boar in 2 wheel drive. It snuck behind a tree to seek cover but luckily it came out and steve had a succesful harvest. That night camp grew a little with the addition of Seyha (Khmer6) and his son Petra. They came to see Steve's trophy, and help us with the herd. Unfortuately, even after canvasing the area for a couple different times in all different directions we never crossed that herd again for the rest of the weekend. All in all we had 5 tags, and only one javelina. Im grateful for the expereince of sharing Steves first javelina hunt with him and his son. Getting to make a new friend in Seyha, and another weekend of enjoying a new part of az. Special thanks to: Mule Packer BuckMaster21 SWDesertRat and HankSaidItBest These guys all tried to help contribute and give me tips about the area when i was behind the 8 ball for scouting and general starting points. ALl awesome guys to talk with. And Thanks to Khmer6 for braving a bunch of strangers for javelina camp with his 4 yr old. Hope we made it worth your while and made you feel like part of the group.

20b (i already pm'd you). 4 of us on a tag. My brother, my buddy, and my buddy steve with his tag along 9 yr old for his first "man outing". ha ha

I'd find a way to purchase this awesome deal, if TJ would be willing to finally teach me all his successful hunting secrets.....

Does anyone know the answer? TJ because 239 is just right.... and 1 more small bean.... will raise the count to "two hundred and farty"....

Because Edge.... as anyone here will attest to... enough time hunting, and the answer for sex will always be "no"

Frustrated on a turkey hunt in unit 8 on a turkey hunt one fall my buddy was looking for something to fill his weekend. After hearing about my opening day woes Bob made plans to come up for saturday. Enter the scene of a mutual friend and coworker (to both of us) also in our camp with a tag. Dean had a side conversation with bob about making the hunt. Bob was skeptical Dean was even going to bother. When i informed dean that bob was on his way saturday morning, The conversation at lunch before bob was set to arrive talked about being "over geared" for trips. (Basically bringing too much unnecessary junk). Long story short, we decided to prank Bob by sitting in our boots, skivies, and gun belts when he rolled into camp. Only problem was, we were camped up a ways from a dead end that had a fishing spot and outhouse on it, and apparently saturday mid day is a popular time at the roads end. We waved at a few random trucks that didnt happen to be Bob. On the positive side, no one seemed to mess with anything at our camp that trip.

why do the drive through atm's have brail on the key pads?

when does the actual expert get here?

well... sure know that wasnt me.... never seen a bull all season long. ha ha ha

I have had two occurances. Once on a turkey hunt, we came across an elk carcass. It had been scattered by coyotes and the tines had been sampled as well. We propped it up at camp. Before the end of the weekend, we got to meet the local warden. lol. He asked if anything was uspicious or if we knew anything about it, asked where we found it. He wasnt interested in hiking to where we came across it. ha ha. Took my name and info down and said i was welcome to take it, since it didnt appear to be poached. (the guys at camp convinced me to leave it behind, though... wasnt that impressive with the gnarled tines). the second story i know involves a friend who came across an intact skeleton (seen the picture). Was met by game and fish at his door when he got home three days later. lol. Same story, no signs of poaching, was able to explain where and how he found out. Key to any game and fish warden (or any law enforcement) is to be as cooperative as possible. ha ha ha

So we took a leap of faith this year. Put in for 20B despite not knowing anything or having been in the unit at all. We (there's 4 of us) got drawn. I recently introduced my buddy to hunting, and we got skunked on turkey and whitetail. Despite no beginners luck for Steve (or my abillity to mooch beginners luck from him, lol)... he came back for more. After staring at the maps online, (acme mapper, az access) and doing a quick search, im kinda clueless as to where to begin scouting. First off, Can anyone here recommend a good "paper map" source for 20 B? I got spoiled with my flatline for 22n. Anyone have ny expereince wih the "hunt unit maps"? Anyone have any hints othe than "glass, glass, glass some more" for the area? ha ha. thats a learned method already. thanks for any and all info. Kinda hoping 3rd times the charm for Steve, before he gets accustomed to tag soup.... even if its on stink pig. Luckily for him (and us) he is pretty new to az so exploring a new part of the state is just as rewarding. thanks Matty

so is ron and noah from deer creek? Hopefully me and my brother will be in the same predicament in 2 weeks. that late bull tag in 22n.

what size is the stuff?

RIGHT now, its only all online. This is due to the fat that the 2014 license process is undergoing the change. Outside vendors like walmart dont want to get the license books for the few months they will be under the "old/current" system. January 1st is a new form for the license. I did go to the office to pick up mine already. The process will eventually go to an online format. The change i would like to see is plastic. go away from a printed paper licesnse to a plastic hunter id card (like a D.L.)

two please!... ha ha, but we have the late rifle hunt. Thanksgiving leftovers, and hunting!!!

rent you a space in the pop up.... heck, to make the deal more enticing, i will even let you dig the "yuck hole"... free of charge. ha ha ha (Sorry, couldnt resist).

so when and where will it be for arizona? ha ha. maybe just have to wait a bit and buy he dvd

i had seen this trailer once before (via the e-zine outdoor hub) last fall before my turkey hunt. Im dying to wach this movie if it ever really comes out.

Since you aren't after my bull, i can help. just kidding. when is your cow hunt? i've been very blessed this year (turkey, w-t, and bull all for 22n). I am heading up there next weekend for three days to look around again. My turkey hunt is oct 4th. And my white tail tag is the 24th (so i hope to go up at least once in between). I'd be happy to share information with you. the first weekends i went up were still pretty warm (85 ish) so no alot of movement. I agree with "MadMax 692". Control road and north to the rim. I went out by camp geronimo and found a cow middday walking the shoulder. Had to wait for her to cross actually. Going back to camp i seen some some cows along the control road between whispering pines and diamond point. There's been alot of "weather" since ive been up so anxious to go up next weekend and see whas happening there. Congrats on the successful draw to the first cow tag.

true.... originally i was planning on going up this weekend until i couldnt get time off from the 2nd job, and tha i also realized it was archery bull. Figure i would keep from interrupting someone else's hunt and wait a week. We heard them locking antlers on the oher side of a knoll from where we camped last year in unit 8 (about 50 yards from camp), on our turkey hunt.

my brother and i are gearing up for the late 22n rifle hunt (nov30). so stoked. our first set of bull tages. went up a few weeks ago, but it was still 85 during the midday witout a lot of movement. Going up nex weekend for the tail end of the rut, and to scout for the fall turkey tag. thaks for the renewed hope with all the pictures. I cant wait to get up there.