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I actually got frustrated enough to call in today. First i called the autmated line to see if i got drawn. ha ha. still not there either. Then i called the mesa branch and the lady said "maybe today".... for a brief moment that bought me off. I got excited. I thought to myself "be patient"... and then 6 hours later i think to myself "maybe NOT" ha ha

My Gripe with the online system isnt the "paper vs 'stoopid puter tech-nahl-gee'", but obviously if some of us here (on the forum) are a representative group of the rest of the hunters participating in the process... the draw already happened. Its supposed to be a lottery. How can they hold it for over a week long of some getting drawn monday, others friday, points in between, and the simple fact of why dont they release the results if they have started.

every 12 hours? i check it at least once an hour (while at work, ha ha)... I think its crap... how the online system worked this year. Everyone who put it over the 'puter pretty much found out their results based off credit card charges while the old paper stylers (like me)... are being antagonized in suspense. ha ha

Im with "Standman". Are me and brian the only two people here that actually send in paper to g&f? its been a long week already trying to check

No offense... but i think the bigger issue that is coming to light was mentioned twice in the regulations as stated previosuly in the original post... pneumatic weapons and hand-held projectiles: THIS MEANS I CAN FINALLY PLINK DOVES OFF MY BACK FENCE RIGHT? HA HA HA Time to dust off the "ol red rider"....

Man... this looks awesome. Neighbor told me about it last night. Mule hunt is this weekend other wise i would go. a tank, machine guns, and from the videos i saw... who knows what else http://www.mgshooters.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUx7uHfyD5M&feature=player_detailpage http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fTkgYdDgR1g

So due to some unforseen circumstances, my girlfriend cant use her mule tag this time around. I know there is HOAL and other groups, but doens anyone have any experience with working with a specific group? And why did you choose them? I know its only a few weeks away, so i need to get the wheels in motion

of coarse i may be behind for some of you, but here was the inciweb from yesterday. Looks like they reopened the road on the 4th. {According to Arizona Department of Transportation (ADOT) officials, Hwy. 288 will re-open today at noon. Due to fire operations, it was closed last week from McFadden (milepost 290) south to the A-Cross Road (milepost 270). "We'd like to caution the public traveling on that stretch of Hwy. 288," stated John Thornburg, fire management officer. "ADOT crews will be performing maintenance and firefighters will be cleaning up the last debris from the fire along the portion that was closed."}

Below is the laest inciweb report as of 6 pm ------------ Young, Ariz. (September 28, 2011 - 1700 hrs.) - Pleasant Valley Ranger District fire specialists are managing the lightning-caused Tanner wildfire, which began on August 20 near the peak of Armer Mountain in the Sierra Anchas. Fire Facts Incident Commander: Jeremy Human Date started: 08/20/ 2011 1430 hrs Number of personnel: 185 Location: 19 miles south of Young, Arizona Lat: 33 50' 06"Long: 111 00' 37" Resources committed: 6 crews 12 engines Cause: Lightning Aircraft: 2 helicopters Size: 6,000 acres Percent contained: 25 Estimated containment date: Terrain: Steep Estimated Cost to date: $1,040,000 Fuel: Light logging slash Closure: Stretch of Hwy. 288 Summary: Pleasant Valley Ranger District fire specialists are managing the lightning-caused Tanner wildfire, which began on August 20 near the peak of Armer Mountain in the Sierra Anchas. The size of the fire is about 6,000 acres, and is 25 percent contained, with the fire spreading today mainly to the northeast. Fire activity was reduced today, resulting in less smoke. Water drops continued, but no retardant was ordered. Crews will work into the night in the Workman Creek area removing brush and establishing fire lines, as well as continuing mop-up operations on the northwest corner of the fire. Arizona Game and Fish officials say 700 tags have been issued for the General Season Turkey Hunt which kicks off Fri., Sep. 30. Alternate travel plans may be advisable due to the continued closure of part of Hwy. 288 through this weekend. For further information, please contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department at 602-942-3000 or visit their website at http://www.azgfd.gov/ Closures: Hwy. 288 is closed from McFadden (milepost 290) south to the A-Cross Road. This portion of Hwy. 288 will remain closed through the weekend. Crews continue mop-up operations to remove fallen trees and hazardous branches and limbs and to generally secure the roadway for safe vehicle passage. For further information about the road closure, please contact the Gila County Sheriff's Office: 928-474-2208, or go to http://www.az511.gov/ For information, call the Pleasant Valley Ranger District offices at 928-462-4300, or stay updated at www.fs.usda.gov/Tonto. To report a wildland fire, the fire emergency number is 866-746-6516, or dial 9-1-1. Basic Information Incident Type Wildfire Cause Lightning Date of Origin Saturday August 20th, 2011 approx. 02:30 PM Location Armer Mtn. 19 miles south of Young, AZ Incident Commander Jerry Human Current Situation Total Personnel 185 Size 6,000 acres Percent Contained 25% Fuels Involved Light logging slash Fire Behavior Today fire spread mainly to the northeast Significant Events Fire activity was reduced today, resulting in less smoke. Water drops continued, but no retardant was ordered. Outlook Planned Actions Crews will work into the night in the Workman Creek area removing brush and establishing fire lines, as well as continuing mop-up operations on the northwest corner of the fire. Terrain Difficulty High Remarks Hwy. 288 is closed from McFadden (milepost 290) south to the A-Cross Road. This portion of Hwy. 288 will remain closed through the weekend. Crews continue mop-up operations to remove fallen trees and hazardous branches and limbs and to generally secure the roadway for safe vehicle passage. For further information about the road closure, please contact the Gila County Sheriff’s Office: 928-474-2208, or go to www.az511.gov

So, I keep hearing that the place to be for quail is up north of roosevelt lake. Well it just so happens that we got drawn for mule deer in 23, which is also just north of the lake. Planning a camping/scouting/quail trip for next weekend. Any body have any luck up that way? any ideas where to start? thanks Matt

Yeah BowHunt.... sorry my mistake. I seen the official press release about the workmans creek project after i posted, just didnt have time to correct my statement. Been up there numerous times and there has always been signs posted about the dangers of the radiation for the past few years

The armer mountain fire has officially been named the tanner fire. (http://www.inciweb.org/incident/2705/) as of the last posting it said they were only 10% contained but working hard to get the road reopened. The road is only closed from A-cross to Reynold's creek. Bonecollector, if you go up to the north half you can still drop down to below young (just a little longer). Good luck on your turkey hunt. We were planning to go scout for muley this weekend. Kinda bummed about what the fire will do n the next few weeks until they get it knocked out

BowHuntaz: Workmans creek area has signs posted up here year round. The tonto website said workmans creek area is closed due to construction, not due to "blinky," the three eyed fish. WadenAz: Thanks so much for posting this. We have tags for muley there also, and in fact due to scheduling i get a 4 day weekend this week... we were gonna head up and scout... serious change of plans since we cant get to the timberline to set up camp. BUNK! Little too warm to set up off the a-cross road.

Hey Jay that cool was just looking at these last with a coworker. PM sent

I want a picture too. Friend is in need of a trailer to haul his quads

Friends of ours brang over a bottle of PRICKLY PEAR VODKA. stuff had a mild and unique flavor (as far as vodkas go). Could definitly taste the prickly pear infusion. Mix it with some cranberry juice for an awesome coctail

do you have a price list or website? we got drawn for deer in 23. depending upon where we camp, it would be easy to get to payson

what draw length is the bow

maximus, i dont know which thread you are referring to. i know i have found one thread earlier in the season about heater safety. The Little Buddy brand heaters are suppopsed to come equipped with a Carbon monoxide alram, but in addition to that your local hardware store sells a battery operated one. I believe the original thread the person advised to purchase the secondary CO2 alarm, for safety. I know i posted a thread on here around april, asking for more information, if anyone had any experience with the battery operated monitors. My main concern is the package said it was only rated down to 40 degrees f. so on a cold elk trip i was concerned about the abillities of the alarm when the ambient temps can be down below 20 degrees. Any ways... coleman makes a model, theres the little buddy brand ( i bought one off of ebay from a guy in wisconsin) and im sure other brands that are equally effective. The catalytic heaters are safe for indoor supposedly... heres a link for you: http://www.outdoorplaces.com/gear/equipment/heat/

G&F put it out yesterday... Regs will be available on 8-17 with 2012 licenses available 8-19 (online). In-store licenses wont be available until aug 29th. And as always...the second tuesday of october is the 11th for this years spring app submital deadline. heres a link to the newsletter: http://azgfd.net/artman/publish/NewsMedia/Game-and-Fish-Commission-sets-spring-hunts.shtml

feel free to contact me next time you come down, if you havent sold it. my number is 602 885 1527 Do you have any details on the gun? new to you, or purchased new? signs of wear? aproximate age of the gun? Matt

Im interested, but donw know when i will make it up there. When do you come down to phoenix? (Where at in phoenix as well?)

Scout A-LOT! We got that hunt last year. My buddy swears by that unit, and we've been for everything there in the past few years. Last years deer hunt was horrendous though. If i can recall i only heard of 4 deer. we followed some does but never found any bucks. Now that i scared you.... we always went through town, and then out 4th st ( Which turns into perkinsville rd which is also county road 73). Camped back in the locket tank vicinity. here is lots of water on the east side of Co73 (tanks, white horse lake, jd dam) so just have to work he spots. Forest road 108 (on the west) will work back up to I40 so theres spots and tanks back that way. The western area of he unit (by Ash Fork) is all scrub cedar, or so im told. Never ventured that far west.

So how early is too early to scout? ha ha, i wanted to skip outa work tuesday after the draw results posted. Got my unit 23 muley tag for late october. Any one here have any tips/insight/info they willing to share? Friend at work got his deer out of 23 last season just west of young.

the draw results are posted. WOOOOOO HOOOOO and good luck! i got deer (but "info missing" on turkey tag)