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  1. Now that I think of it, there might not be access around her property. Does anyone know if it would be possible to get aroud her property? It's kinda in the bottom of a canyon. Anyway, if we needed to get through her property, the county could force access. It has happened many times in Cochise county. All we need is to get someone on the county board of supervisors fired up over this situation. This particular gate should be able to get opened in courts. Of course, some others cannot. Those that cannot get opened are as simple as I said before...Environmental Assessment, and then blade around the property. There isn't much red tape involved. If there is a lack of manpower in the agencies to get an EA done, have it contracted! Instead of paying the landowners off, get an EA done and go around them! Blading around private has happened a bit in the past, but it looks like it needs to happen more in the future. We need to get the county and land management agencies moving on these locked gates. If we let them pass the buck, nothing will get done. Pay a visit to your local BLM, G&F, Forest Circus, or county office. I think the county needs to be pushed on this particular gate, and all the rest need to be the state and feds. The game and fish access cordinator deals primarily with access to state lands. There are lots of gates locked near fed lands as well. In the past, the G&F have bargained with land owners for access. In my opinion, we don't need to bargain with the landowners on these access issues. All that gets us is more locked gates because other land owners are seeing what the game and fish will pay, or do, to keep gates open. :ph34r: We need to blade around private and create our access on public lands. Most simple EA's can be done from start to finish in a few months, so as I see it, we should be able to get around any or most private in a few months after access is denied. Some of these gates have been locked for years! Remember, we are the voice for public lands. If we want somethig done, we need to be a squeaky wheel. OK, off my soapbox (for now) :blink: On a more positive note, It doesn't look too windy, so I'm off to whack a coyote or two! Have a good weekend all.


  2. I don't think the county or anyone else can run a cat through her property unless the have a ROW grant. That may be the case? I'm not sure. But these properties where we find locked gates are no larger than a couple hundered acres most times, and sometimes just 40 acres. All it would take is a quick sashay through the bushes on public land with a dozer, and you are through to the other side of the private property. Basically bypassing the property so we do not have to mess with them ever again. Now the road will be on public land and governed solely by the public land owners...you and I.


  3. Kill 'em all while we have the chance. It probably won't be long until the PETA or some other animal group pushes the G&F into protecting lions, just like in the land of fruits and nuts. Hopefully we can keep our G&F commission positions filled with hunters and not fruits and nuts. Don't think the coyote will ever get any kind of protection...thank goodness. We are all glad the G&F has come to the conclusion, after the public has insisted for decades, that predators are a very large part of fawn survival. If the wind ain't blowin hurricane force tomorrow, I'll be doing my part to whack a coyote or two.


  4. It's as easy as doing an enviromental assessment, getting it cleared, and cutting a road around the property with a D-9 cat on BLM land! That is what could and should happen with all these access problems. These landowners do not own very much property. The problem is, most of the land that is privately owned is near or on public roads and access. The BLM, State, and other land managment agencies have the power to cut roads wherever they want to allow public access. What we need to do is poke and prod the land managment agencies until they do something.


  5. Check this out. http://www.seazsc.com/2nd%20page.htm The picture is 2/3 of the way down the page. For those of you that have not seen the absolutely ridiculous amount of trash they generate, this picture will give you an idea. Not only trash, but drugs, theft, etc. etc! It is rather stupid we have to be shut out of out public lands because of illegal activity. I say if the illegals get caught by the BP, put 'em on a chain gang...or make them give to society. Something to deter them for coming. All we give them now is a few free meals and a ride back home. I don't want to sound like a mean dude, but good crap, where is the justice for the hard working American that doesn't want more drugs and theivery in his backyard.


  6. I have actually had more luck with a mouth call. The elctronic calls I have been around cannot reach out there like my mouth call can. But that is just my experience. Yours is probably different. The last bobcat I called in was last year, and I had just bought a new 223. As a matter of fact, just out of the box. The first round shot through the gun was at this bobcat at ~60 yards. Shot right over his back. Coulda cried. The salesman told me it had been boresighted at the factory. It probably was, but what happened between the factory and the shelf obviously knocked the scope around. I sighted in just afterwards, and I was more than 6" high! UUGGHHH!


  7. Definitely. I think most of us would. Those animals belong to the state, we are the owners of the state property and land and we are the voice of the state. If the ranchers want the game animals gone because of damage to the rangelands, they need to have the game and fish issue more tags and give access to the public. If they want tags, they need to put in like the rest of us. Simply put. :ph34r: We all know once the ranchers get the tags, it will be a rich man's game. EVERY access point into public land that is open now will be shut and ranchers will be looking for $ to let you in, even if they only own 40 acres at the access point for 40,000 public acres. In my book, that is called selling rights to what is already ours! Yeah, you all say "just walk in from the access point", right? The only problem with that is many of the access points are in Muley territory and you have at least a 5-10 mile hike before you get to coues country, then another 5 to get to prime coues country. Don't let it happen. Man am I gonna have my rancher buddies pissed at me, but oh well. OK, off my soapbox for now. :huh:


  8. I think we've all had our fill of scum-sucking thieves. It ought to be the law to be able to whack someone trying to break into your car. I'd set up sting operations all over...(whack, whack) ;) I too had my superduty stolen last year. I found that you cannot trust anyone. Don't put it past acquaintences, and or friends of friends. Car thieves are good for nothing $#%@. All at the expense of us hardworking honest citizens. I would definitely do something about the stolen wallet and ID. Track it down and find the SOB. There are cameras all over the place where credit cards are used. Catch him and have him put in a cell with BUBBA. There is nearly nothing that will make you feel more violated than to have your vehicle stolen. Get him back and let BUBBA violate the heck out of him. Good luck, and keep us posted on any progress.


  9. DESERTBULL,

    There are fur traders that come around to different parts every so often. I have heard of them coming to St. Johns, and Globe...I'm sure they make stops in other locations. Anybody have some insight? Give it a google search. If you can't find a furtrader that comes around here, you can save your pelts and ship them off. I plan on saving mine and giving them to a friend to take to a furtrader that comes to st johns. Coyotes are going for ~30, and bobcats for well over 100, more like 150-200 if its a good one. I missed a bobcat a while back, and I'm still kickin my ars over it.


  10. I think the critical time to thin the coyotes is May and June, when the does are dropping the fawns. We have all heard if the population of coyotes goes down, they "instinctively" raise the number of pups in the litter. Well, they can't bounce back in just a month or two. If the coyotes are decimated in May and June, there are not as many to take the fawns. Of course the adult deer are taken by coyotes as well, but not like the fawns are taken. May and June should be designated as national whack a coyote months. FYI- Pelt prices are up (near $30).


  11. I was in unit 32 last weekend (friday Dec, 17th), and saw absolutely no rut activity. Stiff wind that day. I was only out a half day, but I think in that amount of time we should have seen something. We saw ~5 different groups and a total of 30 deer. (does separate from bucks) Surely the rut has picked up since then in 32? The interesting thing about the rut is the fact that it is so unpredictable and variable around the region. I saw a muley pushing does hard in the middle of Nov during the coues hunt this year in unit 31. Actually saw him mount up. I guess when the does produce the estrus, the bucks will go crazy...no matter the time.


  12. From experience, the honda is the best all-around bike. The new rubicon is nice. It has a hard time warming up the first few months before it is broken in and the valves are adjusted the first time. Next, the yamaha for a smooth ride. Just a reminder to everyone...Make sure we all use good ethics while riding. 4-wheelers are a great tool to have in the field, but we need to use them responsibly. ;)


  13. I went to the meeting the other night regarding the proposed ceiling fee increase. I hear ya. The G&F claims to run the dept like a private business, not spending a dime on unnecessary projects or issues. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the G&F non-game branch is mostly or partly funded by license and tags fees, taxes, etc. Why do we as a hunters have to pay for non-game species monitoring and studies? Not saying non-game is bad, but I don't think hunters should have to pay for it. Also, if you look at the proposals they have for the deer tag increase...the increase cost for a resident tag is 125%! No, it gets even better...The increase for a non-res is only 75%! What is the game and fish telling us??!! First of all a slap in the face 125% increase, and then only increase the non-res deer tags 75%. If an increase happens at all, it should be equal, if not skewed to make the non-res pay more. If we want to let the Game and Fish know what we want as hunters, we need to join local sporstmans clubs and voice our opinions through an organized club. They pull more weight than you might think. Let them know that an average of 75% tag cost increase across the board for big game tags is WAY too high...unless you agree of course. What ever floats your boat. Let them know we are not going to pay for programs not directly related to "hunting and or fishing". Let other Bureaus or Depts pick up the bill. Let the Feds pick up the bill. They spend bazillions of dollars on some of the dumbest things anyway. Hunters and fishermen should not be singled out and forced to pay for programs not related specifically to hunting and fishing. Those are just two examples of hundreds that we can come up with to show the game and fish the alternatives to high tag fees. Unless we give them alternatives, we will pay big bucks for our tags, and guess what...another increase is due in 5 years.


  14. My buddy has a 300 mag, and nearly blew the front shoulder off the couse the shot last weekend. I see your point though. I have used 30 cal on coues in the past, but I personally think it is overkill. You just need to make sure you place the shot right. Hey, firstcoueswas80, I see you are going to NAU. I graduated from there last year. I had quite a few classes in your dept. I heard someone from NAU plugged a 130" buck in 34. Do you know who it is? I think he is from Sierra Vista. I knew a huge hunter from Sierra Vista at NAU (Drew?), but I think he already graduated.


  15. I think the 270 is a great caliber. The 30 cals are too big in my opinion for coues. With the 270, you can go down to a 130 grain, and keep you ballistic coefficient high. If you drop below 150 with a 30 cal, you lose your efficiency out past 300 yards. If you really want a good round, reload a 110 v-max in 270. That is a flat shooting round. You will be impressed. Use the 150 gr in your 270 for elk if you are lucky enough to get drawn.


  16. I didn't read all the posts, so forgive me if I repeat a prevoius post. I own a hi-point 9mm. It is a cheap gun, but that is what you wanted right? I payed 160. I have put ~200 rounds through it with absolutely no problems. Shoots straight too. Overall it's a good gun in my opinion, especially for the pirce! I heard that Guns and Ammo gave them a good rating...maybe I'm mistaken????


  17. I'm gonna follow .270's lead, because I think our predators are a much bigger problem than anything else. We all know that predators have taken a large toll on the deer populations in the past ten to fifteen years. My dad tells me stories every weekend while we are out hunting... "these hills were full of 4x4 bucks in 1965." There were more tags issued back in the day...as a matter of fact, there were doe tags issued! But mentioned before in this thread, a pelt was worth a weeks pay then. I think all the old timers trapped. My dad did. My father-in-law did. My uncles did. My grandpa did, etc, etc. How many of us in this forum can say we trap? How many of us in this forum can say we took 25, 30, or 50 coyotes this past year? Well, all the trappers did. Some of us go hunt yotes on occasion, but nowhere come near controlling the population like we need to. I just saw a pack of three this past weekend on my dads hunt. I took a 350 yard shot and missed! Not only were predators trapped and hunted in the 60's, 70's and 80's, but there was 1080, which is of course outlawed because of its bioaccumulative characteristics. Which the whole contoversy behind that was scavengers can be contaminated if they come in contact with the coyote, or lion that gets the 1080 poisoning. In my opinion, the only animal that will come in contact with the poisoned animal would be another predator, or meat eater that would take a fawn or large deer if given the chance. Killing predators is the point right? I guarantee if we controlled the predator population more, we would have more tags than we would know what to do with. Ha, we might even give some to the out of staters! Nah. It'd be better to raise the deer limit to two per calander year for in-state hunters. Taulman can kiss our butts. I think I may have opened a can of worms with that kill 'em all attitude, but that's OK. Let's hear what you have to say.

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