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I just now realized you were in Flagstaff, too. I may have run by you. I sure hope I was a good advocate for the MTB community! I help coach the Basis MTB team every fall. We typically ride Eldon and the Fort Valley Trails, starting from Basis. That's where I'm amazed to see hunters, with how popular those areas are with hikers and mtb riders. We ran into 2-3 guys from Phx last year with the antlerless archery tag in late Oct/early Nov. They were surprised at how busy those trails were. I gave them some areas to look at in 11M, after seeing a good size herd of does right behind the Elks Lodge. I've seen some killer bucks in those areas (11M/7E) where you can get away from the hiking/biking crowd. You probably know, but I'm happy to share privately.

I've been the mountain biker rolling up on hunters on the AZT here around Flagstaff. I felt kinda bad the first couple of times, as a hunter, myself. But then I got to wondering why anyone would hunt that close to well-known, popular hiking/biking trails around Flagstaff. To be fair, though, they typically aren't from around here (most hunters know to get far away up here) so I usually give them any information I can on where to find elk and deer away from those areas. Hiking the AZT is on my list of things to do. And if you need anything when you get close to Flagstaff, don't hesitate to holler.

Ended up taking more pics of the scope out of the box.

If that's the HS Strut Undertaker, you'll be fine. I have that in my turkey gun (12g), my daughter's (20), my son's old youth gun (20g), and his new full-size turkey gun (12g) and it patterns everything excellently.

Probably because the guy running it is part of the tribal outfit that puts on HE in AZ. I'm guessing he's setting up classes up there for tribal kids, but all classes right now have to be opened for everyone statewide. He's a great guy. I don't know why none of the other instructor teams aren't setting up classes, but the 13+ feet of snow in Flagstaff has kept us from doing anything. That'll change once we get access to the NorAZ Shooting Range.

1000% correct. You get the certificate of completion of the online course. That still needs to be carried at all times during a hunt as part of the current, still ongoing waiver process for online field days. We're currently working on getting field days for online students up and running this spring/summer in Flagstaff. Keep your eyes on the AGFD HE webpage every Tuesday for classes. The instructor who typically sets up the online field days just sent an email today about a class in May, but we don't know if there will be enough instructors or not. I'm in NM that weekend turkey hunting. Once I know the exact date/time, I'll post it up in the forums so folks can keep an eye open.

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Jeep is sold!

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Like others have said, you can try several different loads/choke combos to find the best one. My kids started with Hevi Shot Magnum Blend 3" 20g shells. My daughter still uses those in her Mossberg 500. I switched my son to Apex TSS #9 20g 3" shells for his youth gun. You can spend a ton of money on chokes, but my favorite has been the HS Strut Undertaker XT. Its about $30 most places. It patterns most all of the high-density turkey shot beautifully. Both of my kids' 20g are super tight patterns with that choke and I ended up switching to if finally, for my 1187 with 3.5" HeviShot Magnum Blend. I can't argue it one bit. My son started hunting with his Tristar 12g last year and the same choke with Apex 3" TSS #9 shot was super tight. I highly recommend the HS Strut Undertake XT ported.

To be fair, it was Lance Kenyon that convinced me to start and do what you're doing, but it was easier to say "I''m doing what andyyy is doing". Works great and now I can't justify getting an annealing machine.

We're holding our turkey hunting seminar in Flagstaff tomorrow night, 3/21, from 6:30-8:30 at the AGFD office. We'll be there, despite the snow predictions for tomorrow

Best inrevision I ever made, after trying to anneal with brass in a vice grip and twisting my hands. I also just bought one of these for my new 6.5PRC to help get even more consistent https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1025230687?pid=660075. I used andyyy's method (drill with socket) on my expensive Nosler brass for my 6.5WSM and had no issues.

Good to know. Zeiss didn't make that part clear. I'm just trying to find a good home for a good NIB scope that won't get used.

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That's funny stuff! I tried to talk her into keeping it, but she's definitely set on selling it!

I'll throw a plug for PAugie17's Savage Axis Muddy Girl. I got my daughter a Savage Axis compact 7-08 10 years ago. Its solid. The only thing I didn't like was the factory trigger. Before her first hunt, I put a Timney trigger in it and lights out. It has 4 different Barnes 140 gr TTSX handloads that are sub-moa and one factory load that's just under an inch. I'm pretty sure all of the new Axis have the accutrigger, including the Muddy Girl for sale. That's a great rifle for your daughter.

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Just realized I was relying on the CL link for the price. KBB has it at $47-50k. Cars.com has the avg retail as $54k We're asking $47,500.

My son got another youth elk tag this year!

TTT. Will entertain reasonable offers

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