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    3 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    i thought it was because people could buy tickets, lose, then cancel the charge or the card some how. 

    Well that is probably why the AZ lottery leaves it up to the establishment. Given there is an option for the vendor to take credit or not seems to disprove an actual state "law" in my mind.  If we go back to the "services rendered" argument - wouldn't buying event tickets in advance violate these "laws"? I guess I am trying to apply logic to this.... I am no lawyer LOL

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    4 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    I don’t know about the laws but I worked at a gas station when I was a kid and you couldn’t sell lottery tickets to someone using a credit card. A debit card yes, but not a credit card 

    No I get it and I have been told the same at most places.  I have always assumed that this was an actual law but the more I try to find the less I believe it. The G&F saying there is a "law" doesn't mean much to me personally.  I have a suspicion it has more to do with amount of refunds they would have to process and also the amount of applicants they would loose based on fronting the money. I am not necessarily a proponent for fronting the money but I would take that way over the current process. The idea of my card being compromised in the 3 week delay between updates and charges makes me sick in all honesty. 

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    1 hour ago, knothead said:

    Actually, the law is in place and it has nothing to do with AZ G&F.  It is more of a banking law where charges can't be made on a card with no services rendered or something similar.  Otherwise people could be charging lottery tickets on their credit card and then not pay.  This is not the only reason but this is one of the situations that the state was afraid of when they lobbied to have this law put in place.  The fix needs to be made at the state legislature and the law needs to be changed.  The only people I ever hear question this law are hunters so that is why it really doesn't get much traction for change.   G&F just has to comply with the current AZ banking laws.   

    To be more fair, G&F should offer a place to list a 2nd card when applying.  Not having funds is one thing but having a card canceled due to fraud and no fault of your own is completely different.

    There is actually no law in AZ preventing someone from using their credit card to purchase lottery tickets. I am struggling to find any reason why funds cannot be taken upfront other than the G&F not wanting to deal with thousands of refunds after the draw. \

    https://www.arizonalottery.com/winners/player-security/#:~:text=Only buy Lottery tickets from authorized Arizona Lottery retailers.&text=Buying tickets with a credit,you must have your ticket.

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    Out of curiosity.. when was this “law”passed about taking funds up front for service not rendered?? Wasn’t it just a few years ago that we could send in a check with a paper application? Must be pretty recent as I can’t figure out a difference between paying upfront with card or check. 

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    1 hour ago, Edge said:

    Ironic dichotomy there, going primitive in the future....

    I'm wanting to reload 45-70 with Blackhorn powder.

    I have been a muzzleloader hunter for a long time - “futuristic” is used in terms of whether or not I end up with a tag but I see where it sounds ironic. I guess it’s as ironic as calling Blackhorn primitive but I am not going down that rabbit hole 😂

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    57 minutes ago, WhtMtnHunter said:

    Don't hate me.  But Sportsmans Warehouse Flagstaff had 5 bottles sitting out about 3 weeks ago.  I bought all 5.  Then a few days later they had 5 more!  Didn't buy those but they didn't last long.  Already used most of 1 before and during the HAM hunt, kinda nervous about letting any go!

    I haven’t seen any in Phoenix for a while.. I kick myself for not picking up a few bottles the last time I bought some. 

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    29 minutes ago, NewlyMinted said:

    I moved to pyrodex .. have a half bottle blackhorn that’s been in my safe with Dessicator for about a year if y’all are in t-town. Trade ya for some steel BB 12g or just take it and think nice thoughts 

    I will take that 1/2 bottle. I will pm you with what I have for shot gun shells. Thanks! 

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