karmiller

And I'm sure that none of this increase in permits has anything to do with removing rut hunts and adding December tags, 400 to 500 youth doe tags in the Kaibab, a 3rd whitetail hunt in almost all of the Southern units in the state. The G&F Commission put forth to G&F a few years back that they needed to create more hunter opportunity so this is how they achieved it. Very controversial and I'm sure many of you remember this. But it did work because when you talk to some of the folks at G&F and a couple of the old commissioners they'll tell you, we have left over deer tags every year now and there are elk permits which come close to or are 100% draw along with over the counter elk tags. I am by no means trying to defend AZSFW, everyone just needs to realize that G&F and the Commission can be just as bad. If you like to hunt then you need to start taking an active role and quit leaving it to others to make decisions. Rick Miller

My first posting, I listened in to some of the meeting and one major thing that I came away with was that everyone better watch out for the gentleman who was not a hunter and read a statement on what he believed to be the wildlife model of the future. We can continue to fight amongst ourselves all we want but let me tell you this, that guy and his friends are winning the war. - Rick Miller