bowhunter4life

Well, if they were for the ban, they also had the opportunity to send in their letter during the open comment period. Why was over 70% of the letters against this rule change? Where was the 19,000, they had the opportunity to send them in and support it. It is because 90% of them had no clue that this change was coming! Very little public notice given with regard to the rule change. What you are saying is, most Az hunters do not care if we manage without any factual scientific data being performed in the State of AZ? Show me the data that was performed within AZ and I will support you! IF not, you are agreeing that it is ok to manage our wildlife by opinion and best guess methods. And using outdated studies by other states completely different eco-systems? Like the southern peninsula of state of Michigan. Hummm… Show me the facts and many of us will stand by you in support.

Awesome!!!!

Ok, I thought I was done; I have to respond to your negative comments. I disagree that most are outfitters, of the few guys that showed up to speak, I think only two of them were guides. The bait ban for most of us, as I have talked with many outdoorsmen about this very topic. This for me and them was plainly about having factual data that was performed within the state of Arizona. The sad part is……… Even during other items before the item #9 was proposed to our commissioners they stated they wanted scientific factual data that was done in Arizona before they made their decision……..But when item #9 for the baiting ban was presented, the commissioners disregarded that there was no factual scientific data collected or performed within our State of Arizona and still voted 5-0 Including There has never been any survey’s or reports that show how many big game animals that were harvested over “bait” So how can they state the harvest is to high? Clearly this is just an estimated best guess formula. And oh by the way archery deer hunters are capped by a 20% harvest based on a 40% survey card by rifle hunters. So the bucks are being managed within the harvest agenda, otherwise they close the archery hunting opportunity. No studies or research was performed within Arizona with regard to CWD or other types of diseases. The only thing sited was from other states and all studies sited were outdated by over 5 years or more. Since when did our commission care about “fair chase” As this was the 3rd leg of the proposed reasoning behind the ban? We do care about public perception but managing wildlife should not include “fair chase” Let’s leave that to B&C, P&Y, and SCI. What I wanted from the commission was plain and simply before they made their ruling final. Than to revisit this within 2 years and show the factual data that was collected. Make all big game animals mandatory reporting and within the reporting have the harvest method.ie, over water, spot n stock, bait, ect. This would give all wildlife managers the true factual data of harvest per unit for all species. Perform a study, showing the effects of baiting with regard to congregation of big game animals. Perform a study of CWD and other types, within Arizona to show the factual concerns of our diverse population throughout the state. Use the same model that was performed in other states CWD study. If during the presentation G & F would have show the factual data that was performed within Az. I would have supported them 100%. Oh by the way, mandatory reporting for archery deer hunters will be gone next year, it was approved. So, I guess we will never have factual harvest data within our great state. All tag allocations will be based on an assumed harvest agenda,

The vote is this Friday!!! Please resend all Commissioners emails again stating you are against the rule making change! Can anybody make the meeting to voice your concern? This will be your last chance before the vote. Thank you for your interest in the Department’s rulemaking process. The draft final rulemaking will be presented to the Commission this Friday, January 11. The Article 3 rulemaking is item #9 on the agenda, but please don’t ask me to specify a time as I don’t know how long it will take for the Commission to consider each agenda item. Thank you, again and make it a great day.

The vote is this Friday!!! Please resend all Commissioners emails again stating you are against the rule making change! Can anybody make the meeting to voice your concern? This will be your last chance before the vote. Thank you for your interest in the Department’s rulemaking process. The draft final rulemaking will be presented to the Commission this Friday, January 11. The Article 3 rulemaking is item #9 on the agenda, but please don’t ask me to specify a time as I don’t know how long it will take for the Commission to consider each agenda item. Thank you, again and make it a great day. Celeste

GaveDigger rock!!, If you try them, you won't shoot anything else!

Yes, from Mr. Mansell, thanking me for taking the time to e-mail him

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov...issionCam.shtml

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov...issionCam.shtml

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov...issionCam.shtml

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov...issionCam.shtml

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov...issionCam.shtml

If you need to go to a closer office, you still can voice your concerns! Thank you for your message. The Phoenix office meeting room is not set up to allow persons to participate in a meeting via telephone or e-mail from their own home/business for a number of reasons. However, it is not necessary for a person to go to the Phoenix office to attend/participate in a Commission meeting. Commission meetings are also broadcasted at the five Regional offices (in Pinetop, Flagstaff, Kingman, Yuma, and Mesa); each Regional office has the ability to transmit electronic blue slips to the Phoenix office and allow attendees to speak to the Commission via an office telephone/intercom. In addition, for those persons who want to view the meeting, but are not interested in speaking to the Commission may view the Commission meeting via webcast by accessing the following link: http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/CommissionCam.shtml

G&F will vote on this Friday. Make time to go and speak your concerns. This may be your 1st and last opportunity to try to bait for your urban pig. The vote is this Friday!!! Please resend all Commissioners emails again stating you are against the rule making change! Can anybody make the meeting to voice your concern? This will be your last chance before the vote. Thank you for your interest in the Department’s rulemaking process. The draft final rulemaking will be presented to the Commission this Friday, January 11. The Article 3 rulemaking is item #9 on the agenda, but please don’t ask me to specify a time as I don’t know how long it will take for the Commission to consider each agenda item. Thank you, again and make it a great day.

Use the following link to contact commission http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/commission_members.shtml

MANDATORTY REPORTAING means you don't have a choice to not report. If an archery hunter refuses to report he will get cited. I agree with Traveler, mandatory reporting for everyone is needed. Rifle hunters don't understand this issue but when they have to report and then their hunts get taken away because of it they will....... I agree, we must have mandatory reporting of all big game animals. I still do not understand how AZGFD manadate a 20% cap against archers when it is based on them only receiving, 40% return rate from their survey cards that they mail out? I think if they did mandate mandatory reporting it would change how they manage! It would reduce the number of tags they would sell. The facts would show are many more deer being harvested during all the rifle hunts that they currently do not have to account for.

Great job guys on a superb buck!

Flatlander, what is the max pool for 2012 for archery 9?

Awesome!!! congrats on a hunt of a lifetime and a great buck!

For sure, great reminder to us all!

Last day 2011 Dec, some mighty good eat-in My smallest coues to date, but still very rewarding

PM sent, Will keep you in prayer.

speechless!! WOW!

Thanks! It buckled my tailgate also. I think that saved me from serious injury. I agree, the tailgate allowed the qaud to stay upright. Thank God it was not worse, I still cringe when I think of it!