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Go to the north entrance of the lake and follow it left on castle hot springs road, when you get to the river crossing over the bridge they are usually in the wash on either side of the road. Generally you can see them all around the lake and even in the desert on new river road between the lake and I-17. There are quite a few at Alamo as well.

This argument isn't going to die, ever. Can someone truly explain how it is OK to be gay, I don't think so, it is a choice that an individual makes for whatever reason and the problem is that over time we keep being forced to accept it as the norm until eventually it is. The problem I have is that I don't believe anyone is born gay and therefore that makes it a choice, I believe in the bible and God and I made the choice to believe it is wrong to make that choice. I have never had a problem with anyone that is gay, and have never condemned them, but let you say that you don't believe in what they are doing to their face and see who is condemned. You know even if you believe in evolution you can't believe that being gay is OK, it makes no evolutionary sense for a species to be gay that needs a male and a female to procreate. Where is the line drawn, this time we are being forced to accept being gay, what will be accepted in the next fifty years, I hope to God it isn't pedophiles, I mean if you ask them they were born that way and we sure as heck don't want to be a bigot and not accept them. I think murderers and rapists would claim to be born that way and God help us we can't allow them to be the victims of bigotry. They can do what they want and it will affect me very little, it will affect my kids more, and their kids even more, but I can teach them what is right and wrong and hopefully that will be enough. Until I am isolated and persecuted for being a Christian or for raising my kids to be Christians they can do what they want, they can be married and recognized by the state or the country, but not by God. I do have people that I hate, I freaking hate pedophiles and rapists, I hate people that give me a good reason to hate them. I don't hate homosexuals, I just don't believe in their choice, but if they happen to be a pedophile or a rapists then yes I hate them too, and that includes the dang priests that molests kids.

That is funny, you now can't practice with your bow in your own yard. Surprise has changed a lot, we used to walk down the street with our pellet and bb guns to the open fields to shoot, and where all the new homes are at in the northern side of Surprise was where we hunted dove. It looks like some pissed off neighbor called the cops enough and went to some council meetings to get the change, some of the residents need to show up at a council meeting and express their views.

David that is where that rabid lion was killed early this year. I haven't tried any calling there, but usually we see a few coyotes. Good luck

Yeah I haven't been there yet this year. I was there last year and there was a bunch of elk just on the ORO Ranch which is the Maria Baca Float. I am not sure if I could ever catch one off of that private property. There sure were a bunch of hunters up there as well. Thanks for the advice guys I will try and head up there tomorrow. That seems to be the area most people recommend. The ORO will let you on I think for a trespass fee to hunt elk, I don't think they allow it for deer though. Desertbull you may be right, I heard the info from Peeple's valley from a friend, and he did say they were on private property, he was telling me because I have the rifle tag for the limited opp hunt for the same units. When it's hearsay you never know, kinda like scouting on the internet.

Near yolo or 7up ranches, you can also try peeples valley, though you might have to get permission to hunt on some property. Close to campwood could be where everyone is congregated, but it is definately worth a try. Have fun and let us know what you see.

Sounds like snake fever got him.

Dude, your freaking me out. No reptiles allowed on grill. Man law! I would think that would be a point in his favor, it is definitely not some soy burger or even a veggie burger. Casey did you shoot the snake or just smack it with a rock or stick, because nobody will get on you about a head shot on this one.

He is very helpful and was a great guy on the forum, I think I agreed with about 99% of what he said or posted and would hope that he will eventually come back, one of the nicest individuals I have ever met and consider him a friend.

It would have sucked for someone to watch you do it, especially one who has had a cam stolen, and then try to explain the situation you were in.

Congrats on what looks like a great hunt, thanks for the pictures.

Obama, Biden, and McCain have never ran anything when it comes down to it. As far as international affairs go what do we got with Obama, his willingness to be friends with murdering terrorists. Why is DB's comment stupid and yours isn't, his comment is probably closer to the truth than yours, and they don't have to be 18 to get an abortion or to take the pill. Everyone thats screaming change should really look to her, she is the only one that hasn't been a part of our government for the last few years, all the others were involved, well except for Obama, I mean he was elected and then promptly started running for president. "Anyway... I could care less if she was knocked up... I was responding to DB and his stupid comment..." and I was responding to you and your stupid comment.

See any elk Doug. Great pictures hopefully you find the one you want when the hunt starts.

Just because she got pregnant at 17 has no bearing on whether or not they are smarter than her, it might not be the best thing to do, but it isn't the end of the world for her and could be just what she wanted in life, his kids might be on the pill when they are twelve we will never know. We also know that her son is going into the Army, are his kids smart enough to not do that, maybe they will just live off daddy's rock star status for the rest of their lives while attending church and being raised in this God da**** country according to their minister, that will be defended by Sarah Palin's son and not to mention all the other son's and daughter's that are out there defending us every single day. His kids are probably smart enough that they wouldn't have gotten pregnant.... J This entire Palin thing is just amazing.... It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out.... What was McSame thinking????

I have a feeling that Sarah Palin is a lot tougher than they think, she is probably a lot smarter too. Good Luck to her and her Family with the crap that is going to be thrown at them.

There are several ways to look at this the first and what I think is the truth is that the democrats are desperately seeking to find a way to get the votes back they know they lost with McCain's choice of Palin and they know that one lie at the right time can help them. The problem I see with this is that it is the wrong lie, if what they are claiming were true "which I say is bull crap women all show differently",are they going to say that Palin faked a pregnancy to protect her teenage daughter and raise the baby as her own, dang that is horrible, if that were true it would make her a what, a liar yep most politicians are, but other than that it would make her a mother who found out her daughter was pregnant and protected her nothing else, there may have been other ways to cover it up, but she did the one thing you would hope all mothers do and that is protect her young children and that would endear her to even more women voters, some of the women would simply have had a daughter abort the baby and never say a word, they will not get votes from them, but they never would have any way. How is that for spin. Truth be told this is just mudslinging from the left nothing more, and I guess Obama's kids are now fair game to the mudslinging.

I have the Minox and have been very pleased. Check with Doug at Camera Land for them or other options.

Kind of makes us wish we had a woman governor here in AZ. I was hoping he would pick her, I had read about her last year or the beginning of this year and liked her immediately. I also like the thought that if anything was to happen to McCain, this is a person I would want to run the country. Where on the other side I don't want B.O. running it, nor Biden, and God help us all if it somehow got to Pelosi.

Not for coues this year, but I will carry this for muley and cow elk.

Congratulations, great job.

Thanks for the story and pictures, congratulations on a great trophy.

Congratulations Allen

Congrats on a Great buck.

Congrats on an awesome buck.