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I sent a thank you to Primos for dropping uso. I would think with every one hopefully it will gain momentum and then the uso will have to stand alone, and with maybe a few big sponsors dropping off, they might get the idea the that they are in a fight that no matter the outcome they will lose.

I agree, if this is true it is a great start, and I wish to thank all of the people who sent e-mails and made phone calls to voice our concerns.

Predator, I almost forgot to say that I will pass on any info that I come across while scouting. I just hope everyone has a great year, be it with a bow or rifle. Good luck and God bless

I don't think I have any pictures thank GOD, but if there are any and my wife happens to see this thread they will be on here. If its any consolation I never did die it any colors, I have seen some kids nowdays that look like they have feather dusters on their heads.

I will also be in unit 21 for my dec. hunt, it will be my first time hunting coues there and on top of that I haven't hunted there for anything in at least 10 years, but its close and I can spend a ton of time there until dec. You do have a great site Josh, and I agree with the others Keep it up. I can't comment on nobodies hair, late 80s hair halfway down my back, early 90s mohawk, now I just shave it all off.

Lark, I think it is somebody like you that we need on the commission, you are a resident who tells it like it is, I think you scared a few of the non-residents by what you said, but you really don't seem like the kind of person who would intentionally do harm to somebody ( you did make them wonder about every resident in the state though), our state is just that OURS, and we need to keep it that way. I don't mind the people that come from out of state that hunt here, but you get a few that think we owe them something because they have money or want more money. One thing I noticed in the regulations is that you can take as many lions in some units until the harvest is reached and they don't count against your one lion per year bag limit, we all need to have a lion tag, and check the regulations because you might be able to have more than that. Good luck and God bless

Does California even allow non-residents to hunt their elk, maybe non-residents should only be allowed 1 bull elk in a lifetime in AZ. The way things are going now it might be that way anyways for the unlucky ones. We need to unite as residents for our voices to be heard, nobody cares what a few people are saying unless there is a lot of money involved.

My brother got a 19A archery elk tag, its his third elk hunt in three years, the two previous were cow tags. At least I get to go with him.

I noticed CHD drew a tag in the supplemental drawing hunt #3025

I didn't get my 6A north archery bull tag, But I am glad that you did Amanda. I did get a dec. coues tag in unit 21. Good luck and God bless

I was born in Arizona, and I don't know about most of you, but I feel I should have an advantage over someone that doesn't live here. I didn't mind the non-residents getting the share that was allotted to them for the bull elk and mule deer north of the colorado river, but you get a few people that are never happy and they ruin it for everybody except them. I see a few non-residents that are posting on here that they agree with us also and I think that is because it has already happened to their state or it will as soon as it is settled in AZ. Can you imagine if there was not a non-resident fee to hunt in any state, what would you have a United States hunting and fishing license, wow I could kill 10+ deer in half the states back east, but so could everybody else, I could buy tags in alaska for residents prices and so could everybody else, who would mandate how many animals get killed every year, and who would manage and patrol these hunt units across the country, I am thinking that the states wouldn't want to if they are losing license fees and tag fees, plus why would states set up seperate funds ( heritage fund ) to maintain wildlife if they are getting nothing in return. I can think of nothing good that could come from this judgement, of course there are individuals out there that don't care about rights of others, they just pay high priced lawyers to change them, so that they benefit that individual and the few like him.

Will the additional draw include all applications or just non-residents.

I am for boycotting certain products and I think every one of us needs to put in for the units they covet with at least our first choice, between us residents and the non-residents who are on our side in this we may take one of mr. montoya prized tags. I have never put in for Kaibab but it will be my first choice from now on, whats the downfall I don't get drawn, I already got that chance but now he has one more person on the draw against him. I am Keith Gaines and I approved this message.

They updated the azgfd web site again, with some answers to the questions, well they actually just said that most of our questions would be answered tomorrow. Good Luck and GOD BLESS.

JSR, I just e-mailed him and was coming here to give out his address. Thanks for posting it, maybe he can shed some light on this.

I really hope it doesn't affect this years draw, and if I was azgfd I would notify all hunters if they were drawn or not. That would further complicate matters on this judges part, it looks like somebody did something to change this judges mind, he threw out the case before and it was taken to the 9th circuit court where they sent it back down to him. I would think if I had made my decision and somebody else sent it back top me they were agreeing with me and just didn't want to say it. http://static.espn.go.com/outdoors/hunting...15/1493276.html There is the article where he threw it out the first time. I would like to know if I was drawn or not and what percentage of us lost our tags because of this also.

This day went to crap real fast, I was coming back from a job in Wickenburg when the azgfd page is updated on my computer and I glanced over and seen it, I pulled over and read that crap. I switched over and posted the link on the other thread and I could not think of nothing to say. I think this delay could ruin a lot of hunters plans, time off work etc. It wouldn't surprise me if these people also try to get the judge to allow more time for out of state people to apply for more tags. It sucks that this hunting season will now have lawyers and more money(millions of dollars) spent on this crap, and they thought they were saving money not having to mail out our pink slips. Arizona should only allow out of state hunters to apply by mail from now on, if it's all of us oh well, I would say to raise the prices on out of state tags, but that only hurts the hunters that probably are'nt involved in this anyway. Good Luck and God Bless AT LEAST ARCHERY IS STILL OVER THE COUNTER { FOR NOW }

we're screwed, it's gonna be awhile http://www.azgfd.com/artman/publish/article_121.shtml

Maybe one of those pelicans slammed into the azgfd computer and they had to start over. This waiting sucks, but it will be worth it.

I think the lady on the game and fish # needs to just say NOT YET, the way she hesitates makes you think she is going to say something different every time.

People Eating Toads Already Couesdiehard, Now we have a group that is against us already, for such a small business we are already going to get some great advertisement. We don't have a client yet( we need to check Avion's 40 time ) and we need to scout. What are we going to do get the lily pad trail cams, the wetsuits, and the rest of our gear waterproofed. Game and Fish needs to hurry, I hope that electrical substation did'nt do something to their computer system when it went down, I think we could all go down and hand sort them if they asked, CW members would volunteer i'm sure.

While I am sure we could offer trophy bull hunts we would also have to offer any frog or designated frog only hunts as well. The first requirement I would have as you mentioned any clients or prospective employees would have to submit to a 40 yard dash against either of us, i have a burst of slow not many people could match, if they are not slower than i'm not going.

I noticed you mentioned flies, is baiting allowed. If I was you I would make sure you have at least one more person with you to back you up, and to help pack them out.

Is it archery only for the frogs or is there a rifle season, ham maybe. Good luck and God bless.

http://www.arizona-hunt.com/apps/ Here's the link where it says that.