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If you owned a stock rem 700, or Ruger M77, Savage 110, etc. what would be the first or only upgrade you would make to improve accuracy? Not incuding scope options. Would you drop in a Timney trigger or make pillar bed the stock?
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this was a fun topic to get the feedback on. after reading the back and forth I think i'm going with a slingshot. Light, durable, and there's rocks everywhere. David killed Goliath so I think I've got a chance.
Actually I think I'm going revolver, and leaning toward the ruger SP101 in a 2 inch barrel.
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Anyone have any thoughts on Kahr 45 or 40? Seems pretty small and enough power.
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i'd get a .22 or .22 mag. ammo is a lot cheaper and they are a lot more fun to shoot. you'll use it a lot more just having fun, than you ever will to get out of a jam. get a 4 inch ruger mark II if you want an auto. a single six if you want a single action revolver or maybe a taurus if you want a double action. and a .22, especially a .22 mag, is very deadly for self defense and a lot easier to get decent with as far accuracy. and the guy you shoot with it won't think that just because it's a .22 it won't hurt. ya don't really need earplugs if you have to shoot at something either. somebody makes a .22 mag auto now that holds 30 rounds, but you can't find one anywhere. i'd love to have one. Lark.
thanks Lark, I'm kinda leaning toward a revolver just for the reliability and I figure if I need it I'm going to be real close to whatever it is I'm shooting at. Ruger LCR has a knew 22 model. I guess my only hang up on a 22 or even a 38 snubby is if I stumble on a Sow with cub. Not sure that's going to be enough. Any thoughts?
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Want to buy a pistol/revolver for use in the field while hunting scouting hiking, whatever. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestion. I don't want to spend more than $500 new/used. I most likely wont go out and target shoot the pistol I really want it simply for defense. I want something that is relaiable when it gets wet or dirty while I'm on the ground glassing or moving through brush. And something light. I've thought about the new Ruger LCR snub nose and it actually fits pretty well in my hand, but my concern is the range of accuracy. I like that a revolver is going to be reliabel though. I think a small semi auto will have a little more range but I'd had to have a mal function because it's go dirty on a long hunt or scout trip.
anyway, just hoping for some opinions.
Thanks
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I even wonder if a rifle shoots different on a bench, on a lead sled, or on my pack out in the field. The best way to check is to shoot one shot per day using field conditions.
I have befinatly noticed a big differance shooting from lead sled VS shoulder. I only use my lead sled during load development. Once I have chosen a load the zeroing is done from the shoulder.
Speedy.
Interesting info. I shoot of a sled when zeroing and then make small adjustments when shooting of my pack or tripod as I would in the field. But isn't the difference from sled to free hand just my poor habits effecting the shot? Always wondered that.
Sorry should have elaborated on the from shoulder. (by all means not free hand from shoulder.) I still use sandbags on a bench when zeroing from the shoulder. I can shoot just as good of groups but it seams they always group lower when shot from the shoulder. The only thing I can think is the lead sled is creating a pivot point at the lower portion of the butt on the rifle. (recoiling up) When shot fron the shoulder my body moves back obsorbing the recoil. Just an observation I have made with multiple rifles.
Speedy.
Understood, that makes sense. Thanks
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I have an option on a Remingtom 700 Boone and Crocket 30-06. It has a laminate stock with a flutted barrel but otherwise seems like the same action and trigger as other 700. does anyone own one or have an opinion on if its just a dressed up 700 no better no worse? Like a gimic for sales.
Thanks
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I even wonder if a rifle shoots different on a bench, on a lead sled, or on my pack out in the field. The best way to check is to shoot one shot per day using field conditions.
I have befinatly noticed a big differance shooting from lead sled VS shoulder. I only use my lead sled during load development. Once I have chosen a load the zeroing is done from the shoulder.
Speedy.
Interesting info. I shoot of a sled when zeroing and then make small adjustments when shooting of my pack or tripod as I would in the field. But isn't the difference from sled to free hand just my poor habits effecting the shot? Always wondered that.
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Chirs thanks for the detailed response and while you list many worthy ideas that will benefit from the money raised, the problem is that they are just that, ideas or very general programs. I think most sportsman would be more likely to agree with this bill if there was one specific program that was going to beneift from the sale of this tags that we could quantify and track and determine if it's worthy to continue supporting. Otherwise it just seems like more of our money/assets being sent to a bureaucratic entity.
I would also be more willing to get behind a few tags, like just the Govenor tags, but not all the other categories.
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has anyone ever attempted this non permit hunt. I know it's very limited area and very few elk, but also heard that in some cases private land owners have some elk on their property they'd like removed and if you can find these land owners and get permission they can be succesful hunts. It goes from Jan to end of March.
I was interested in the verde valley hunt area if anyone has any previous history.
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I'm not sure how I feel about a highly frangible bullet on a big game animal. Even if it is a coues. I have been working up a load with the barnes tsx for coues. The tsx is solid copper and will retain almost 100% of it's weight as well as expand reliably. The .223 needs every bit of help it can get. The barnes tsx is a proven deer killer in .223 (lots of whitetails killed back east with them) as long as you keep the shots relatively close and stay disciplined.
I just don't think something advertised as "frangible" would be good in such a small caliber unless you're shooting yotes. A bad shot might turn into a lost buck.
Just my thought process. Google barnes tsx .223 and look at some of the deer being killed with them. Keep the frangible blow up on impact stuff for varmint calling.
can you explain more about why frangible might result on a poor kill. I didn't know anything about this type of bullet before, but it appears like it would provide more energy transfer and more often a quicker kill, but I am not very knowledgable with bullets so if you can explain more that'd be great.
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anyone shot this ammo? Any thoughts on it's use in 223 for coues
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So for the past year a hunting buddy and I would go out and try to call in coyotes. At first it was really just to get away from the house and oh maybe a coyote would come by. With no luck, not even close, we got a cheap electronic call, still we had not luck. Funny thing is that we'd laugh at how in desert near our houses we'd see yotes all the time walking our dogs or in our neghborhood, but nothing when we went out to call. This past month my buddy broke down and bought a pretty nice electonic call (couple hndred bucks) and we've gone out three times since them with not even a call back.
We always where camo, sit still, try to work the wind so it's in our favor and have tried a number of differnt areas. We are both in the north phx area.
It's getting to be kinda funny, we can go hunt Elk, deer, Pigs and be succesful or at least have a hunt, but coyotes, not luck, unless I hunt in my backyard.
We've tried up on a ridge so we can glass for miles, we tired getting in the thick for a shotgun shot. We just suck at this. Can anyone direct us to a site for "How to hunt Coyotes for Idiots 101"? Or, maybe provide some pointers. It just seems like when I'm not looking for them there they are, and when I am, where the $%%# are they.
I'm getting hooked on something I'm having no success on.
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If anyone knows of any QUALITY Brittany Spaniel and/ or English Pointer litter (from proven registered parents) whelped here in AZ or NM in early to mid Nov, please let me know.
I am looking for another great Mearns dog to add to the family.
Plus, a 6-7 week old bird dog puppy makes a GREAT Christmas Day gift for a 4yr old daughter!
Thank you
Here is the contact for a buddy of mine that breeds and a pic of one new pup.
Matt Keller
Keller's French Brittany's
602-818-6600
tell him Chad sent you
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PM me and I'll send you the number to a good buddy the breed French Brittany Pointers. I own one and it's the best dog I've ever owned. I've owned GSP and labs, both excellent dogs. These Frech brits are devils in the field and angels in the home. Didn't know if I'd like a smaller dog but I'll never go back. I've spoken to at least 10 of other owners and they all same the same thing. They are great house dogs, loving and no digging or chewing issues. My GSP is 11 and he still never lies down, my Brit is very calm, but get him in the field and it is ready to hunt, works hard never quits, excellent swimmer. The best is that he naturally hunts close, great check back and always in gun range. retrieves to hand soft mouth, still working on steady to shot, but he's just over a year. I simply love this breed, will buy again when my old GSP goes down for good. My one knock on the French is that they are a bit, well, "french" in the cacti. He as got much better when he gets in the thorns, it's funny now he doesn't cry he just keeps huntin on three legs until I get up to him to pull out a thorn. When he was young i was worried he was a puss, but he has become much tougher. That said, nothing like my GSP, that dog will eat a Cholla to get a bird. Anyway my buddy has litters right now, he is up near Prescott and he's no show dog guy, all hunters with good French lines. French are the original Brittany that americans bred with English Pointers so they'd range out farther, dont' need that now unless you hunt on horse back.
You wont be sorry
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Wow. From these post, I think I was wrong and my buddies had it right. I need to pay more attention at the range next time. Thanks for all the reply
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Was down on a hunt this past weekend with some good friends and we got into a debate about a clean barrel vs one shot or more for accuracy. They swore that if I you had a freshly cleaned barrel that the first round fired on a cold barrel would fly funny. Me and another guy disagreed and said they must be using to much oil. Any thoughts on this? They said the powder used now was so clean you didn't need to clean your barrel that often. Wierd to me, I clean my guns after every use.
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We are in need of a couple elk capes. If you are hunting in Unit 23 and want to bring your bull by the shop we will cape it off the head for you, and if it is not otherwise damaged (besides where you shot it) we will pay cash or give you shop credit towards any mount. $ or credit amount depends on size and condition of cape. If you have any early season elk capes in the freezer you are willing to part with give us a call, again its worth $ or shop credit.
Dale
I have a cow hide in the freeze from Oct. it's in good shape, folded hide to hide, nver got wet or warm, forzen in 24 hrs.
I didn't do a great cape, it was on a really steep hill and getting dark, so the area around the neck isn't great. If you're in phx I can get it to you
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OK, I hear you all. I appreciate the vols too. This is not a disrespect issue. The point I can't seem to make is only if the Government is going to make me do something, that I think I'm qualified to do (teach my son to be safe and repsectful) I'd appeciate a few more opportunites.
Redman, funny stuff
I wish he was that good to play for Hamilton. I meant that i also struggled getting my son who is now 14 into a class when he was 12 and 13. My current 12 year old is playing for the Pop Warner youth Football State Championship this Sat. he is 12 playing in Pee Wee level, but he can't leave his team. Come watch him win at desert Ridge at noon, we need all the support we can get. I take some blame in this also, my kids are really active (3 boys) in competitive swimming and football, so at some point they have to make the choice to miss a game or a meet to do the class.
I guess I just wanted to piss and moan a bit, I appeciate you'all keeping me honest
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I think it's great the people have flown and make long driver to meet the class, but that kinda supports my point, that'd be like haivng to drive from phx to tucson to take my sons drivers license exam. And while I might be just making the post this week, he as taken and passed the test twice in the past year, the first expired while trying to get a phx class and he has a month left on this passed exam trying to get a class. In fairness we have passed on two open classes in some areas outside of phx, but he had football games an I kept thinking a class would open in phx. I'm not free of blame on this situation, I'll own that, my real point is that the options are limited. I'm on my second son trying to get it done. I was actually hoping they'd lose his football game yesterday, and we could go to Mammoth next week, but they won and play for the State Chamionship next week. Hunt is over T-Day. I think that's whey the Dec. 4 is still open, most of the youth hunts are done by that date.
If any volunteers are on the site, I'll pay you for your half day work if that's even possible to run a class on Sunday the 20th.
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yes she needs to either take the full class, or the online test and then one field day. or she can take nothing and just learn from you. it is only mandatory for ages 10 to 14, or under 14. If you take it after that age, you get one permanant bonus boint which is cool.
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Wondering if I'm the only one that's frustrated with getting youth under 14 qualified to hunt?
I have 3 sons and they have hunted with me independently since they were old enough to go, mostly just tagging along at first then hunting rabbits, dove and quail. I take them on deer or pig hunts to just follow along and learn as well.
My boys are very active with sports such as swimming and football, and I could never get enough free weeks to get my now 14 year old into the hunter safety course, so he took and passed the online course but everytime we tried to get him in a field day it was full or it was across the state in yuma,tucson etc. He finally just had to wait until he was 14 to hunt.
Now with my 12 year old its the same thing, he has taken and passed the online test twice, but the first one expired before he could get into a field day course and test. He has taken it again, but with his hunt fast approaching we can't get into a field day. Anyway, maybe it's just me but it seems if AG&F makes this a requirement in order for youth to hunt, they need to have classes open so that all youth hunters can make a class. Adults can still hunt without the course but youth can't, and I have checked AG&F for years trying to get the boys in classes and they are just always full.
At this point his choice is to mis the State Championship game for football to drive to Mammoth for a test day, or mis his first coues tag on the 24th of Nov.
Frustrating for a kid that is a good safe hunter and knows the course material very well.
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To answer your question, yes. As a hand-loader for years, learning what I could from my dad, every *great* gun is fickle.
On the one hand, there are so many great guns out there and so much incredible ammo available it's almost hard to not put something together that shoots really well.
Weatherby, Howa, Savage and Sako all have rifles now with guranteed, sub MOA, with factory bullets.
As a hand-loader, I can tell you that little things like the primer you use, the powder you choose, the bullet, the brass, whether you crimp or not, little things like "throat spacing" all make a huge difference. Some guns like the bullets right up in the lands, some do better with a little gap.
Rifles are more fickle than girls, in my experience. These days you can buy a good rifle off the shelf, put a good scope on it, buy a box or two of ammo and start shooting groups.
But if you really get downn and dirty, you'll find every really great rifle has a preferred load, and that's down to the primer, powder, brass and bullet.
Thanks for all the detail, impressive. Except for the fickle girl thing, I'm not sure I understood most of the terms, but it gives me something to learn.
This question came up because my 12 yr old has a coues hunt in two weeks and wants to shoot his little 223 savage. I know that's questionable, but i won't let him shoot past 250 or 300, I have a tag too and will carry my 270. Anyway, he has been shooting PMC cheap ammo and the groups were great, but I wanted him to shoot Hornaday SP in 53grm for the velocity and less drop, but his groups were kinda crazy. Someone said the ammo can be to fast for some rifles.
Any thoughts??
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OK, I have a follow up. Do you do most of your shooting at Ben Avery? Because, while that seems logical, it takes so long to get anything done there having to wait to go down range. And, the last two visits I was was sure the guy who brought is hot little girlfriend (thanks by the way) was going to get me killed while she waved around whatever he thought to bring to the range. So, is there another spot to go, or anyone care to share there secret deset spot? I live on the north end of town. I have a led sled and lead bag to have a steady rest. My buddy and I have just got into loading our own, but we are rookies for sure.
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So reason I'm asking is that I picked up a Savage 110 laminate stock 30-06 for my 13 year old and he's had some succes with it on cow elk and deer. I put a Burris Fullfiled 4.5 X 14 X 42 and it has teh accutrigger. anyway, I want make a rifle that he can be very cofident with and if he only has one rifle while he goes to college and as a young man he just knows it can do all he needs, so he kinda looks back at his old man as takin care of him. I know he needs a better scope, but I like the trigger. What else could I do to imprive the rifle? Bed the action? Thanks for the advice. Gunsmith in Phx would be great too.