AZLance

+1 I too have worked for the mine in Morenci as a sub contractor. The mine in Morenci awarded us contracts for several years and allowed us to hire dozens of people to complete the work. We also bought alot of materials that helped other businesses hire people. So these jobs numbers that people keep spouting off, are not counting all of the jobs that will be created that support the mine. And to add to the jobs we created due to the mine, all of our work was remediation work, which was re-vegetating areas for wild life, adding water catchments for wildlife and creating new riparian habitat. And I know this work paid off, as within a few weeks of our work, the wildlife was back and healthier than before the mine. This work we did was half on the mine property and half on the national forest where the mine had never been. Mining and wildlife can co-exist, look at the units in AZ that already have mining. Unit 27 has one of the largest open pit mines in North America, yet it is one of the most diverse units we have and is one of the most desired units in the state to hunt.

PBJ has lost all credibility, and if he is going to be speaking at this meeting or any other forum, it is not worth our time. If PBJ wants to take the ADA down with AZSFW on their sinking ship so be it. I think the ADA is better than this, but PBJ is going to need to step aside so they can get back on the right track.

Wait just a minute! I just looked back thru my posts... And I couldn't find one place where I called you or any other people on this form a name? Just cause you don't like my opinion don't hate me...

You got any ice cream to go with that?

Azman, Are you a plant from the Sierra Club or Center for Biological Diversity? You question whether I really care about hunting, but you are supporting the enviro wackos and siding with them! Nice try! Go back to counting minnows...

I would quit going to that archery shop... Hit them where it hurts, in the pocket book.

I'm sure if they didn't have the necessary permits your friends at the Center for Biological Diversity and the other enviro wacko groups will be filling another lawsuit at taxpayers expense.

If they are really for Az Hunters, they will come out against this bill. If the ADA comes out against this bill, they will survive and I and many others will once again support them. Like I said above, Unless they come out against this bill they need to go away. I don't see how Az Hunters could turn a blind eye to the ADA if they say they support the bill. No one is going after the ADA because of what one person said or didn't say. Hunters are going after the ADA because they have been quiet on this issue and have been reluctant to stand up for AZ hunters on this issue.

I too have been hunting, hiking and camping in this area for over 30 years. I also own property near the proposed mine. This mine will be good for the area, and the wildlife will continue to thrive just like they have near the Morenci mine.

Folks, Until the ADA comes out against this bill, they are just as guilty as ASFW and Weiers! Mark Bool and PBJ both claim that, and I will use a quote: "As has already been stated the ADA never did take a vote on this issue. In fact we did not even have a board meeting during the explosion of HB 2072. It was dropped on a Friday and pulled early the following week. We never voted because it was pulled off the table and we were told it would not be reintroduced. For the ADA the issue was a moot point." This is a big LIE! The bill is NOT DEAD, and this issue should NOT be a moot point! I got this e-mail today from Rep Weiers: Dear Lance, Thank you for contacting me regarding HB2072, sale of big game tags. I appreciate your concern as a sportsman of Arizona and wanted to let you know that the bill is being held and will not go forward in its present form. I wish you safe and successful hunting in the future. God Bless, JAMES P. WEIERS Representative, District 10 Arizona House of Representatives So now the truth comes out! The bill is NOT dead, it is just being re-worded, so they can try once again to sneak it thru. Folks, get ready for another battle! And unless you are aginst this bill, we the average hunter should assume that you are for it, and do everything to bring you to your knees, or put you out of business! So ADA, YES or NO? Man up and tell us where you stand!

Unless the ADA comes out against this in their emergency meeting, they need to go away with Weiers and ASFW!

very nice.

Congrats to the kid on a once in a lifetime buck! Awesome!

+1 Sounds like a great deal to me...

I was just kidding! I too was staying out of the fight... Lol

When your reputation goes negative, they remove your post's... Lol

Looks like a javelina skull that is old and falling apart...

Is it ready for the dinner plate? I got a great new duck recipe I have been wanting to try.

by the way, what happens when your "Reputation" number goes to -100? Right now you are listed as "Bad" for your reputation, what next?

BPJ, I see you are reading this topic right now, dont be afraid, jump right in, I got my popcorn ready...

I always got a kick out of moving the pile of rocks to a small deer trail that crossed the main trail, then throwing some vegatation on the main trail to hide it... funny to watch people start walking down the deer trail that went nowhere...

Very well said! +1000

You mean you can't throw your trash on the ground in NM? From the looks of NM you could have fooled me...

Here are a few of them... Pima County GIS maps Maricopa GIS maps Yavapai County GIS maps Arizona GIS maps

In Arizona the state has GIS Data maps available on line, and the bigger counties also have the GIS Data maps on line. The maps provided by the state show land ownership, but the county maps go much more into detail, and will actually tell you who owns each private parcel. Actually I think they put too much information on line, you can find out who the mortage for each parcel is with and the amount of taxes owed...