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The only 2 AR platform rifles that I want to own some day are 9mm and 7.62x39. Maybe a 10mm. I am interested to see where this is headed though.

Somebody needs to buy this. .257 weatherby is a bad a round. This is a coues deer nightmare weapon. I have a 257 weatherby already otherwise I would have jumped on a gun like this.

It depends on the barrel and brake probably. Call Eric

Eric has done 2 muzzle brakes for me, and will be doing more in the future. Awesome dude and awesome work.

I was looking at trying the Elite Hunters in my 6.5x55, but I read a lot of mixed reviews on them. More then other Berger products, and this rifle wasn't meant to be an extra long range rig so I am going to start working with the classic hunters for that rifle. If your gun will spit them well and you can stick them where it counts though I don't think you would have a lot of issue with 195gr bullet hitting something important. I bet it would die.

Last time I hunted 19a with a cow tag was about 15 years ago, but we ran into a decent bull south of Cherry behind the campground.

As much as I don't like them because they price gouge, Legendary Guns in Phoenix probably has the ammo on the shelf.

I don't know when 29 stopped showing up on the leftover lists. It used to be my go to tag to try and get if I needed to try and get a hunt off the leftover list. Somewhere in the last few years it has stopped showing up on the leftover list so people must like the hunt more then the past.

Unit 29 used to always have leftover tags. Not anymore.

I picked up a pound of H4350 today that I am going to try next on the 6.5 and try to push it a little faster. The charts show RL26 is an option too, and I have some of that laying around so I might try that too along with pushing a heavier charge of H1000.

I should have a deer hunt that needs all copper bullets. I have never loaded all copper bullets. Is there any difference, quirks, or tricks to load all copper vs. Leadcore? I picked up some Barnes LRX in 6.5 and some 30 cal TTSX for a couple loads yesterday to start working on. Thanks Harley

If you don't need the meat then hunt for what you want. If you need meat, those late hunts can be tough. Shoot what you see first unless you are very confident you can get back on a better bull.

Location?

I am going to do 3 round groups next time on the 6.5. The .257 is loaded as far out in the neck of the case as I feel comfortable loading them with good neck engagement. I could probably load them a touch longer but not much. I tried to see how far out it was to engagement with the lands, but it was way to far out. Too much freebore.

I spent about 4 hours at the range today trying out Barnes loads for 3 rifles. It took awhile between strings to let the rifles cool down so it took awhile. 2 of the 3 rifles showed promising groups. The third was so so. 300 win mag showed 2 areas of good groupings so I will work on those 2 areas. 257 weatherby showed some good groupings too. One was at 68gr which is very close to its favorite load with 115gr Bergers. 6.5x55 wasn't as promising, but I am using the 127gr LRX which say for 1:8 barrels. My barrel is 1:8.66. After texting with Lance a little, I am going to try and push them harder to see if they will group if I can get them going a little faster. If not I will try the 120gr TTSX.

I feel proud, but hillbilly at the same time. I needed a .257 case trimmer pilot for my hornady case trimmer. No biggy, Sportsmans Warehouse should have...they had a RCBS pilot which has to be the same right? Wrong, it is to skinny. Plan B. Bruno's will have it...Nope only .264 so I grab that since I need one of those too. I call 6 other shops around town...nothing... I am getting desperate...I don't want to spend $8 to ship a $4 item. Now the hillbilly part. Time to improvise. I chucked up the .264 pilot in the cordless drill and break out the air powered die grinder...the cordless gets slammed into full reverse and the die grinder goes forward. 45 seconds later I have a .257 pilot! I feel like a redneck but it worked, and now I have trimmed cases. Conclusion is that RCBS decided it was too cool and had to make their pilots smaller then Hornady, Redding,etc just to make life more of a pain I think...

Congratulations. That was my first choice hunt but I drew my 2nd choice which is fine by me. Scout as much as you can and hunt hard and I think you will be fine. I totally understand the thought of a guide, but it's your choice. I personally would rather gather the Intel I can, scout, and hunt hard. If you get a good one your success will be even sweeter.

12AE early rifle! It has been a long time since I had a deer hunt. I hope I remember what they look like.

Caliblers: 6.5 Something or 7-08 is what I would choose. For a dedicated deer gun .243 or 6mm are also in the mix. If you plan to have her start elk hunting I would start with something in 6.5 or 7mm just to get a little heavier bullet weight options. Budget is the big factor. For Cheaper rifles: Howa Ruger American Savage If your tastes are a little more expensive Kimber or a nice Remington Model 7 would be sweet. One of the most handy best rifles that I ever felt while I worked in the gun shops years back that I still think about was a Remington Model 7 in 7-08. It might have been a mountain rifle from the custom shop, but it was light, pointed really well, and was just an all around awesome looking and feeling gun.

I don't NEED them, but if it recommended and I have time to develop the loads why not? Only 1 of the 3 rifles I will load for has a 100% dialed in lead bullet load at this point. Might as well shift my efforts for now to copper bullets, and then finish the lead bullet loads later. If you get your all copper bullet coupon and don't need it I will be happy to take it off your hands.

Same problem here. 12AW late rifle first, 12AE early rifle second. I had 5pts which isn't enough to guarantee either tag so I don't know where I am drawn. Both are good hunts so i don't care really. I just know i need to start loading all copper bullets which i am working on!

what jdown said is 100% spot on. when I worked in the gun store back in the day I moved safes on the side to make extra money. I moved them exactly as he talks about. A-Z Rentals will rent you the 1600lb appliance dolly with the kick back wheels and straps. Get it. It is worth it.

So much want, so little money...

I know. I am waiting impatiently... I need to know if I got late 12AW or early 12AE...I already started buying copper bullets, but I need to know where to start E-Scouting...

I voted but you are already behind.