Swivelhead

$14.98 gone forever .......

Max point pool BP numbers for premium hunts for all species are way up there. New hunters or youth who hope to draw premium tags are so far behind points wise, likely they'll never make the max point pool(s) to guarantee a permit. I do advocate that any applicant should have an opportunity to draw a permit, i.e. no waiting periods, preference point system, etc. I've thought about methods that will get long suffering applicants drawn but still give everybody a chance at a permit. I advocate the following: 1) Square applicant bonus points. This would dramatically increase the effectiveness of a bonus point. 2) When the demand for a species (sheep - bison) or any hunt number for any species during a current draw hits above a max point pool threshold of say 20 - 25 points, 50% of the available permits go to max point holders.

The downside to this philosophy is that units are overrun with people who don't have tags. Not to cool when you have to back out of an area because a spot is taken ........ by someone who does not have a tag. Hard to tell who is hunting and who is looking.

Got a hit for lope, not sure if it is mine or the two other lope applications I put in for family members. Should be my tag as I have 27 points but you never know till the actual results are posted. Nada for elk. Good luck to all who got CC hits.

Glad to hear Lark is well.

I agree. Remember Lark's post about his pet javelina on April 1st? It was a riot! The man has a sense of humor but apparently not when it came to anything 7mm08.

I wish Lark had thicker skin. Enjoyed his posts even though he could be somewhat cranky at times. Wish he'd get back on this site.

Bob passed a few months back. A good man. Met him at his home a long time ago to talk whitetails. Bob truly loved Coues deer and contributed quite a bit to our AZ outdoor heritage. RIP Bob. https://www.lindefuneralservice.com/obituary/Robert-Stonoff

Please describe the event, I'd like to hear from an eyewitness. What did you think it was when you saw/heard it? I've seen a couple long winded meteors (none in daylight) in my life but never any I thought made it to earth.

OUCH! Glad you & yours got it handled. Hope you recover quickly.

I enjoy the next few weeks due to all the optimism about when & where. Always believe that unexpected tag will show up. Reality will be here soon enough. Unit 1 EAB (6 pts) and 5B rifle lope (27pts). Love chasing bulls on the high ground in September. Good luck to you all.

Likely you should be looking for cougars in that canyon .......

Muzzleloader only hunts are a draw. AZGF will allot permits based on the take. Could be AZGF wants to sell more permits and believes modifying current muzzleloader rules will increase "hunter opportunity."

TTT

x10 When WhiteMtnMan speaks ......... probably ought to pipe down and listen.

Text of SB 1625, note the state senators that are backing the bill. Twelve of thirteen Democrat state senators introduced/sponsored this bill. The only democrat that is not listed on the bill is Sean Bowie of district 18. There are a total of 30 state senators. Arizona-2020-SB1625-Introduced.html

Although a lot of those shots are staged it is true than old time cowboys would rope just about anything ........ fact. Our ancestors were a tough bunch. Cool post BTW.

Beautiful deer. I am no expert but if I had to guess, that buck looks 110 ish to me. Congratulations

For me, it would be a situational thing but I'd hate to disappoint hard working dogs.

Unfortunately it's not if, only a matter of when. Utah, New Mexico and Colorado are all a draw at this point. AZG&F will miss all the non resident dollars and so will many business's. Too many people, not enough game. Nice video of some really good bucks, thx for posting.

Good story and a real nice buck. Congrats!

A friend of mine who is active in federal land management issues (an OHV fiend) told me he recently attended a Tonto Forest planning meeting where the Salt River horse issue was discussed. Apparently the plan is to fence the horses out of the river and off Bush Highway. He said the horses will be contained to a relatively small area. The horse lovers will then feed them. This sounds good but feral horses are well distributed in adjacent areas. Unless they are rounded up, the scourge will continue.

Amazing buck. Love the color of his antlers. Thx for posting.

One of the guys at the poker game ....... lol Not sure who has this reps ear but he appears to have a need to introduce "enviromental" bills. Where exactly is his district?

These bills are poorly written. Suspect they were dreamed up at the end of a long Saturday night poker game.