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Thanks for the ID. She lives in north Phx so it is the Smiths black headed snake. I knew I could count on you guys.

I made up approximately 12 dozen silouettes a few years ago. Generally, they do not pass muster at shotgun range. Doubles and singles are sometimes fooled but the larger flocks usually veer off out of range. We have learned to set up about a 100+ yards away from the dekes in a direction we expect the birds to come in from. We thought about acquiring full body dekes but storing them for a whole year a pain, plus they are not cheap. Hiring a guide with full bodied or taxidermy dekes, a lease, blind etc. is a good way to get it done. Let him store all those decoys. Unfortunately, I don't know of anybody who does it. That and I did not draw this year.

I currently live about a 1/2 mile from where I grew up. There was a Bashas built in our area in 1965. I still go there, there are cashiers that have been there 30+ years. Eddie Basha was a good man.

Stehr lake was a reservoir that supplied water to the Childs hydroelectric generator on the river 700' below. There was a pumphouse on the lake that would lift water via a pipeline over the ridge (Ikes Backbone) down the the power house on the river. When flow was established the pipeline would siphon water from the lake and the lift pump at the lake was not needed. About 1972, my brother and I were fishing @ Childs and decided to check out the hydro generator. We were on the catwalk looking through the screens at the equipment inside when an APS employee showed up to check equipment. He/we recognized each other (do not remember his name) as we had met while field trialing bird dogs. We chatted for a moment, he said "you got to see this, anybody in the riverbed below." My brother and I looked and saw no one. The guy opened the generator bypass shooting and incredible amount of water far out into the riverbed. The water stream ripped up cottonwoods and created an instant lake in the riverbed. I don't recall if the bypass valve was a manual or not but it went from being cool to downright scary, the sound was deafening. I've never expierienced an earthquake but standing on that catwalk, I think I know what it feels like.

Mr. Lawrence, Thank you for the background on the Bar X ranch owners. Appreciate the work the deer association and other like minded organizations perfrom. Welcome to the site.

I believe I recognize this lake, was located on the high end of Ikes backbone?

Locals refer to it as the Nutrioso yacht club ......

Agree with you NIck, this thread should stay. I am proud of my CWT brethren who through due dilligence sniffed out the truth concerning the OP's agenda. Kudos to you all. Controlled grazing, done properly enhances habitat IMO. The Bar X operators appear to be good people. Their application for grazing will be approved or disapproved base on the merit of the application. The OP is trying to circumvent science with emotion. Commenting of the grazing application would be appropriate.

True but NefariousRed had staying power ......

Nick, thanks for posting these links. Very revealing. Full on Justic Act ecolitigants. Rimneighbors.org, you can go away now.

If this statement is true why not go full CBD on them and sue all the way up to the 9th circuit? BTW, it won't be long and you'll be A$$ deep in feral horses in 23. That will be uncontrolled grazing without any way to remediate. Might as well let the cows have at it. At least we can eat them.

Suspect Rimneighbors.org is a wanna be CBD. Being your group is so concerned about an application to open a grazing allotment, what is your stance on feral horses on the rim ............ Cattle grazing is a controlled process, USFS generally is very protective of critical habitat (especially allotments that have been retired). If all the info your site identifies is true, the forest service will not approve increased grazing.

Love it! Thanks for posting.

How was the bait?

Outstanding!

NNE of Hermosillo, that was the rumor. Seen that photo before (a long time ago). Many suspected photoshop, me, I always hoped it was real.

Photo of Woodbury Fire @ 4:00 6/17. Pic taken from Rio Verde Golf Community. Been watching the fire today and yesterday. The fire appeared to double in size today (or worse).

I packed a 3" Smith & Wesson 44 mag when in AK. Friend who sold it to me commented that I did not actually have to hit the bear during a close encounter as the muzzle flash would set the bear on fire. Substantial recoil w/300 grain hardcast ammo. If I had to do it over again I would opt for the 10mm Glock or equivalent.

Although there are resident deer in 12B, most deer that show up are migratory, mostly from Utah. Cold and snow in Utah will mean a banner hunt but hot & dry will leave a lot of deer on the wrong side of the fence. 12A West deer are generally resident year round. If I were in your shoes, I'd go 1st choice 13B then 12A West late. Good luck in the draw.

Thanks for posting this. I too read his articles in AZ Wildlife Sportsman magazine. Many years later, I actually met the man out at Black Canyon Shooting Range (before it was called Ben Avery). We were shooting at the sillouette range. Spent at least an hour listening to him talk about our state. It was a very cool hour. Married 73 years = AWESOME! Peace to his family.

^^^^ This

Page 84 of the 2018-2019 regulations. Season was 7/1/18 till 3/31/19. New regs due out soon will likely be the same for the upcoming year. Don't hunt prarie dogs on the Buenos Aires refuge (black tailed dogs), do plan to go elsewhere in early July before the monsoons grow the grass too high to find the dogs.

Pending

Sorry for your loss. Dogs give all they have, all the time, what a gift they are. I attended the deer club banquet Saturday night. Barbs house of labs donated a chocolate female for auction. Great looking pup. I was going to bid on the pup but bidding quickly went above my price range. Barbs house of labs supports the deer association, might give them a call.

Road to Childs off highway 260 if, as you say Jerome can be seen from this road. IMO, this has got to be the view, as others have stated, from the rim of Bloody Basin looking east to the Mazatzal wilderness. Mount Ord is visible on the extreme right of the photo on the far horizon and upper racetrack mesa is visible too.