GreyGhost85

i'm confused

$1050

Have you shot anything with one yet? Wondering how messy it is

I gotcha. I went with the 111LRH. Love the feeling of squeezing off a 300grn bullet. I imagine it will probably be pretty effective on a coues this fall

Big Browns, what model did/do you have? My first very light, experimental loads were MOA or slightly better. I was just blowing out some brass to order the correct neck bushing and get my resizing die set. I've got some 285 A-Max bullets to try out as well.

It's a great industry for young, fit kids looking for a job and an adventure. I've seen a lot of beautiful places and done some pretty cool stuff over the years. Never thought about recruiting guys on this site, but it makes a lot of sense with the tupe of people you find on here. Free bump! Pretty good company as well

Haha. I've worked in the industry a long time. Being afraid of heights is usually what gets guys two checks at the same time

I have only been applying for spring hunts for buffalo for the last several years. my question is, can you apply for fall AND spring buffalo hunts, and if so, do you get a bonus point each time you are not drawn for either? can you potentially get 2 BP a year? do you lose loyalty point if you only apply for spring or fall, not both?

What is the extended mag? Do you have to lengthen the magazine well, or is it drop in?

thanks. figured that would be an easy question for some people

That font gives me a headache. Couldn't finish reading the post

last time i went through, i don't think it was. you need to make sure to get a permit for the side of the river you camp on (WM,SC)

I have an 8x42 pair of the older razors i might be willing to part with

my friends from colorado burned 11 bp on a late bull tag here in AZ they could have had with 7. called G&F immediately, same story.

almost as bad as when animals knock them around is when salt hungry horses, cattle and cow elk discover the salt. there are a lot of horses and mules running around where i run cameras and they are very hard on them, especially the mules. they will dissolve a mineral rock in a matter of days, chew up a camera and the worst thing is, they run off the deer and bears that are on the salt. the best solution i have found is to hang your camera 8-10 feet off the ground and angle it down slightly

there was a change in hunt numbers for colorado elk this year. it caused many people with 15-20 bp to apply for cow hunts with left over permits. luckily in colorado, people can give their tag back without being penalized. i could not imagine the outcry that it would cause here where you don't have that luxury.

That is a great write up. draw system explained again. I'll go ahead and save jhedg the work of posting. "But what about not being drawn for a hunt with leftover tags?"

at least you were due. congrats on the tag

Jhedg, there are anomalies that nobody can explain. No system is perfect and there will be flaws and mistakes made by the draw system. I'm not going to try to explain anything else on this thread. We are not the ones that "screwed" your buddy out of a tag

squared BP is exactly what it sounds like. If you had 5 years of applying, you would have 25 "chances" of getting drawn more or less. The majority of tags would go to people with a good amount of BP's, just how it should be. There is still a chance of being drawn with 0-2 bp, just not nearly as good.

BC, you are correct. I applied for 27 late bull with 7bp and was not drawn. According to last year's draw report i should have got drawn this year. Things do change year to year with more/less tags allotted for each hunt and how many people applied with x amount of BP's. I am not b1tching and moaning about it or anything. I understand how the draw works pretty well and the hunters trailhead that i recommended helped with that, jhedg. I think if everyone understood it a little better there would be a lot less to discuss on here. I do however hate the fact that with 18bp for antelope i still have around only 1-3% chance of drawing a good rifle tag. The nevada system of squared bonus points seems really good to me. Every year, your chances of getting drawn go up exponentially. Unless you have enough points to make the bonus pass for a hunt (or very near the number) BP's really do not do you much good. The difference in having 0BP and 15BP could mean you only have fraction of one percent better chance of getting drawn. Sometimes anomalies do occur though, like not being drawn for a hunt you applied for that had left over tags. I've seen that happen. My friend and i both put in for archery javelina. I was drawn, he was not. He did purchase a left over for the exact hunt he applied for 1st choice.

i was supposed to be in the bonus pass for the late bull tag i applied for this year. tag was a "guarantee" draw for me. did not draw. the draw system in Arizona is flawed. plain and simple. the only people that do not agree with that statement are the lucky ones that draw antelope, elk and sheep on next to zero BP. do yourself a favor and buy a membership to hunters trailhead. saves a lot of time and headaches in determining what to apply for, and what your true odds of drawing are

Better put him down then.

I think if it's done, it needs to be across the boards. I like the idea of the trophy hunt first. It gives the trophy hunters that have waited 15-20 first crack at the big bulls, which they deserve, and in return, the bowhunters get to hunt the best part of the rut. I am myself and avid bowhunter and a member of the Arizona Bowhunters Association.

Whoa Shooter. Arizona provides some GREAT youth hunting opportunities. So what if they are not eligible for a freebie gift card? Youth hunting and involvement is one of the only things AZGFD does right. Give all the kids tags because they are not eligible to win a gift card? give me a break.